Job Skills - was Re: Tech-support Hall of Shame

Marvin [GodfatherofSoul] Bellamy mbellamy at kc.rr.com
Fri Sep 20 22:30:16 CDT 2002


Isn't that the international "Thread Death" sign? :)

Seth Dimbert wrote:

>You know, I got this. Am I the only one?
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>On 9/20/02 3:01 PM, "Jeremy Fowler" <jfowler at westrope.com> wrote:
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>>You know, I think the Nazis used to shake hands...
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>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net
>>>[mailto:owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net]On Behalf Of Marvin
>>>GodfatherofSoul Bellamy
>>>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:38 PM
>>>To: Kclug
>>>Subject: Re: Job Skills - was Re: Tech-support Hall of Shame
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>>>Socially, a hand or wrist injury is even worse than a marshmallow
>>>handshake!  The potential jokes you expose yourself to ;P
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>>>Brian Densmore wrote:
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>>>>I can accept the cultural greeting thing, but
>>>>to seems to me you are being a bit anal on the
>>>>handshake thing. To judge an entire interview on a
>>>>handshake is, well pardon my French, inane [ok changed word].
>>>>Sorry if this insults, but sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
>>>>or handshake in this case. A bad handshake might be the
>>>>result of injury to the hand. Judging a person's ability on
>>>>a handshake is ludicrous.
>>>>
>>>></rant>
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>>>>Sorry if I insult you. Just couldn't let it go.
>>>>
>>>>Brian
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>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>From: Aaron [mailto:aaron at aarons.net]
>>>>>Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 10:29 AM
>>>>>To: kclug at kclug.org
>>>>>Subject: Re: Job Skills - was Re: Tech-support Hall of Shame
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>>>>>>Hand shakes are just wierd... You have to leave your
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>>>>>personal space and
>>>>>*lean*
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>>>>>>in to someone else's to make the connection. Not to mention
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>>>>>that you have
>>>>>to
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>>>>>>ensure that you're standing exactly the length of each
>>>>>>     
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>>>>>other's arms when
>>>>>you're
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>>>>>>ready to do the shake. And when do you do the shake?
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>>>>>Before, during, or
>>>>>after
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>>>>>>the greeting? What if the other person doesn't shake? Then
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>>>>>you're left
>>>>>standing
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>>>>>>there doing a James Dean brush of the hair. Too much work.
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>>>>>If you extend your hand and the other person doesn't shake
>>>>>for no apparent
>>>>>good reason (broken arm, no hand, etc) then you've been
>>>>>insulted.  The main
>>>>>thing is that you extended your hand and those around you
>>>>>will see you as
>>>>>the better man for it.
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>>>>>>If you're hiring someone, I hope you don't use the hand
>>>>>>     
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>>>>>shake as a good
>>>>>first
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>>>>>>impression. Personally, I think there much more to be read
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>>>>>about a person
>>>>>in
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>>>>>>whether or not they're able to make eye contact with you.
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>>>>>The hand shake is the first impression.  It's the traditional
>>>>>greeting in
>>>>>our culture.  You extend your hand, smile, look the other
>>>>>person in the eyes
>>>>>and introduce yourself.  When I'm hiring someone, a bad
>>>>>handshake means a
>>>>>bad interview.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you think about it, it is kind of wierd that we grab
>>>>>eachothers hands as
>>>>>a greeting.  Who knows where that hand's been?  For all I
>>>>>know the other
>>>>>person could have just come from a vigrous butt picking
>>>>>session, or worse.
>>>>>But that's the way it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>Aaron
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>>>>>
>>>>>majordomo at kclug.org
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