GPG

zscoundrel zscoundrel at kc.rr.com
Sat Sep 7 03:54:50 CDT 2002


Hmmm, looks OK to me.  I guess Netscape 6.2.3 on Linux must be RFC 
compatible.  Just ANOTHER reason to love Linux!

(Perhaps THAT is why the logo for 'doze XP is a BUG!)

Jason Clinton wrote:

> bkelsay at comcast.net wrote:
> 
>> Hey I don't want to make a scene or anything, but is there a reason 
>> that all
>> emails from you come as attachments?   A lot of us here never open
>> attachments from unknown sources.  We have had viruses on this list like
>> everywhere else so we are a little gun shy.  I know this is a Linux list,
>> but a lot of guys still have to use Winders at work or like me use it at
>> home.  My crappy desktop machine w/ Winders 98 just does email and 
>> browsing.
>>
>> Anyway, the main question is why are your emails coming as attachments?
>>
>> Brian Kelsay
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jason Clinton" <clintonj at umkc.edu>
>> To: "Duston, Hal" <hdusto01 at sprintspectrum.com>
>> Cc: "'Kclug'" <kclug at kclug.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2002 2:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: Meeting reminder
>>
> 
> Ok, this is the fourth person to ask so here's the explination once and 
> for all:
> 
> ----snip again----
> Brian Densmore wrote:
> 
>> Jason,
>>  What is it you attach to your emails? Every time I try to open one my
>> harddrive starts spinning!
>> I don't mean to be a picky or anything, but I really don't like having 
>> to wait thirty seconds or more to open an
>> email.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>  
>>
> Each attachment on my email is a GPG/PGP/MIME signature. It's because 
> you're using a Microsoft Exchange client that you're having problems. 
> Had MS written their clients to be RFC compliant there wouldn't be a 
> problem. Outlook users get the churning effect while Outlook Express 
> users see the body of the message as an attachment. Here's an Email I 
> recently sent on the subject to someone else with the same problem.
> 
> ---snip----
> Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
> 
>>> Humm... interesting. In theory, modern mail readers should be only
>>> displaying the text sections and displaying the signature as an
>>> attachment. Mozilla Mail, Mutt, Evolution and KMail support PGP/Mine, I
>>> believe.
>>>
>>
>> Remember that not everyone has a "modern mail reader", some of use 
>> Pine.  If
>> you look at my headers, you'll see Outlook Express, it's what I have so I
>> use it.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Actually, Pine does display the text body correctly because it was 
> written to be RFC compliant. The PGP/Mine standard is actually just an 
> augmentation of the MIME RFC and an RFC unto itself. (RFC 2440 and 
> 3156). Microsoft Outlook and especially Outlook Express, on the other 
> hand, do not properly parse message content and so the result is the 
> text attachment you see.
> 
>> When sending to a mailing list, you have to assume a very low common
>> denominator, both because of the breadth of the readership and because of
>> the possible processing layers on the network.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> The body of the message is just plain old text.
> 
>> I would like to see heavier processing on the list - HTML and MIME
>> stripping, plain text presentation.  I know it's possible because it's 
>> done
>> for the archive conversion.  Until we get that, we'll have to do it
>> manually.  Plain text only to the list.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Digital signature are extremely important and it's really quite appaling 
> that they're not more utilized. For archive and posterities sake 
> especially, it's important that the PGP signature and the entire body of 
> the message go on record unaltered. ... I suppose I could switch to 
> inline PGP signing, but that would just be extremely annoy to those with 
> user agents that actually comply to the RFC.
> ---snip---
> ----snip again----
> 
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