Meetings' Structure was: How is ITEC going?

[Dustin Decker]

On 14 Oct 2002, JD Runyan wrote:

> I hope you don't consider yourself an evangelist, because when someone
> can install windows, and often have all these things just work within
> the first night, then why would it be worth the effort for them to spend
> more than a month to just meet someone who can help them.  

Long run on sentence needs to end in, I think, a question mark at this 
point.

> I'm sorry, but that is just stupid.  That is why people outside the
> Linux community view Linux as an OS for geeks only.  I participate in
> the mail list of a group in San Diego, and they spend a lot of time
> making an environment that newbies can come to, and leave with a fully
> working Linux PC.  

How long does it take an uneducated (l)user to log on as root, do 
something really boneheaded, and then come back and ask you to fix it?  
You can't teach an old Windows dog new Linux tricks overnight.  There 
simply is NO substitute for time behind the wheel.  Stupid is as stupid 
does.

> Maybe if KCLIG wants to evangelize, then they need to rethink having
> an unbending atitude like yours.  

It's kclUg... U indicating Users, not just interest.  In the default 
posture, it is supposed that folks who show up are _using_ Linux.  
Evangelism is just a small subset of what I've seen going on in KCLUG 
thus far, and I think they're on the right track.  I don't think there 
are any members who are so hell-bent on being unbending...  it's hard to 
be that way when you work with an OS that is so gosh darned flexible.  
Unbending.... that's probably got some M$ remarks next to it in the 
dictionary.

> It is completely possible to have meetings(regular social events
> centered around a common interest in Linux) and having strictly
> instructional, structured meetings.  Yes, this would take a number of
> the group members efforts to pull off.

Of course it is... this is why we're discussing it and trying to figure 
out how best to pull it off, without requiring those who aren't 
interested to get out of the way.  Come on out and organize it for us if 
you like.

Dustin

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