tax protest case goes to trial

zscoundrel zscoundrel at kc.rr.com
Thu Nov 21 06:10:10 CST 2002


I remember seeing a lot of that noise back before the Oklahoma bombing 
thing.  Seems like the some of the para-military groups were backing the 
"income tax is illegal" argument, and most of them have become 
comepletely silent in the last couple of years.

Marvin [GodfatherofSoul] Bellamy wrote:

> I wouldn't be so hard on the guy.  This is obviously a statement he's 
> making, and I don't think he expects to win.  Give him some credit for 
> having the cajones to try.  Lawyers and judges affect the legal system 
> in a way that guarantees their job safety.  Heck, a lot of the time 
> decisions are made based on favor-swapping between attorneys.  A sad 
> profession indeed.
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> I'll try to dig up those resources on the "income tax is illegal" 
> argument.  Let me know if anyone has a lead.
> 
> zscoundrel wrote:
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>> Nope.  The incredibly stupid sh*t head is representing himself!!!  He 
>> will lose on a technicality and the appears court will refuse to hear 
>> the appeal and WE will all suffer for hs stupidity.
>>
>> This moron is going to blow it for all 250 million of us.  His 
>> bumbling will set a precedent and no court will ever hear a case for 
>> this type of defense again.  (I is called summary judgment.  You make 
>> a petition asking the judge for summary judgment if you can show that 
>> a case was decided with issues similar to yours.  If the judge agrees, 
>> you get the same verdict, only none of the liars - uh - lawyers have 
>> to work for their money.)
>>
>> Judges and Lawyers do NOT want us to get the idea that we can do it 
>> ourselves, so they stick together on this point.
>>
>> It would be cool if he had some novel angle and was a really wiz-bang 
>> legal eagle, but the judge cut short his opening argument because he 
>> was rambling.  How fair a trial do you think he is really going to get 
>> by representing himself???
>>
>> No, this case is past the point of no return.  To use a scatological 
>> reference, the chain has been pulled, the water is swirling around, 
>> but nothing has disappeared from sight yet.  Things will swirl for 
>> several days and then the judge will make his finding and things will 
>> suck.
>>
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>> Paul Taylor wrote:
>>
>>> No income tax case had been taken to the Supreme Court. Maybe this one
>>> will and the high court shocks the nation. :o) We can only dream...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net
>>> [mailto:owner-kclug at marauder.illiana.net] On Behalf Of Dana
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:04 PM
>>> To: kclug
>>> Subject: Re: tax protest case goes to trial
>>>
>>> All of his arguements have been used before.  He will be found 
>>> quilty, forced to pay back taxes and penalties and probably be sentenced
>>> to 6 months in jail for wasting the governments time.
>>>
>>> Dana
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "david" <whatever at davidnicol.com>
>>> To: <ellings at kcnet.com>; "kclug" <kclug at kclug.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 7:43 PM
>>> Subject: tax protest case goes to trial
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Here it is, the test case all us would-be tax protesters have been 
>>>> waiting for
>>>> http://www.post-gazette.com/localnews/20021119kleinpaste7p7.asp
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