XP Performance

[Marvin Bellamy]

I'm not discriminating.  I've tried to give tech support to both my mom 
and my grandma.  They both have little interest/knowledge of anything 
more advanced than a VCR.  Maybe your mom is LEET, mine isn't :)

Tony Hammitt wrote:

>Yes, it's very important to prevent Grandma from learning anything about
>computers.  After all, why would anyone over 60 ever want to learn anything
>new, or do things for themselves.
>
>Anyone else here who resents technological ageism?  Anyone else whose
>Grandmother was a scholar?
>
>I think you get my point.
>
>	Tony
>
>
>Marvin Bellamy wrote:
>
>>Trust me, I don't like M$.  I'm forced to use their products at work.
>> Actually, right now I'm not running *ANY* M$ products at home, but I am
>>looking to reinstall Win98.  I'm not spouting M$ sales hype, I'm talking
>>about my experiences with both OS's.  Why do we use Win2000 on our
>>workstations?...because Linux it too difficult for non-techs who just
>>want to powerup and download E-mail.  The premise for Linux is great,
>>and I think it will eventually usurp Bill Gate's market share, but
>>asking your Grandma or even your mom to "./configure; make; make
>>install" is too much.
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>>zscoundrel wrote:
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>>>Actually, you are just repeating one of the more damaging M$ lines of
>>>FUD.  I am using RH 7.1 just as it installed because I have more
>>>important things to do right now than recompile the kernel.  I have
>>>done it before, but with 7.1 I did not need to!
>>>
>>>I m able to do EVERYTHING I want to do!  I write letters, calculate
>>>spreadsheets, decomprepress after a tough day with a game or two, surf
>>>the web, exchange emails, modify pictures I take with my digital
>>>camera, and every now and then I process files using CAT/GREP/LESS/, I
>>>edit HTML files and then FTP them to my home page.
>>>In fact, the ONLY thing I can't do is print on this super cheap Xerox
>>>printer because the companby is to short sighted to provide a driver
>>>for Linux - but this is not a Linux problem, because I just have not
>>>had a chance to hook up the HP600 I usually use on this machine since
>>>I moved.
>>>Actually, it is not Linux's usability that insures it will NEVER
>>>replaces windoze, but it's stability!  I can do almost anything my
>>>wife can do on her 'doze computer , plus a lot more, because software
>>>for her machine costs a bloody fortune, and most of mine is very
>>>dependable shareware.  The more I think about it, the more I doubt
>>>that Linux ever could replace 'doze!!!!  I don't think Linux could
>>>EVER become that sloppy and buggy and crash prone because I can always
>>>FIX THE BUGS and then  RECOMPILE the SOURCE!!!  (Well, unless
>>>Microsoft releases a distro!)
>>>
>>>The reason M$ continues to dominate is the lies coming from Redmond
>>>and the business relationship they foist onto their third party
>>>vendors via draconian contract clauses and the aggresive way they
>>>persue anyone in a market niche they decide they want to dominate.
>>>Marvin Bellamy wrote:
>>>
>>>>Straying OT...
>>>>
>>>>The usability of Linux is what's killing it's chances of being a
>>>>serious contender to Windows.  There are a lot of installation
>>>>show-stoppers that aren't even documented.  I had a hell of a time
>>>>with Redhat just getting AVIs to play, probably two weeks before I
>>>>found a reference to the gcc2.96 issue.  How many people on this list
>>>>run Linux exclusively? You almost always have to go back to Windoze
>>>>to get some apps to run easily.  M$ is an evil corporate entity, but
>>>>they got here by opening up the industry to non-techs.  Until there
>>>>is a Linux distro that non-techs can easily use (I mean without
>>>>relying on a techie friend to troubleshoot), M$ will continue to
>>>>dominate.  I've been screwing around with Linux for about a year now
>>>>(spending quite a bit of time per week tweaking my desktop), and I
>>>>have just reached the point that I have all the functionality that I
>>>>need (less running Win32 apps).  KDE is still much slower than
>>>>Windoze :(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Patrick Thurmond wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I know your completely abhorrent to XP, and I don't blame you. But
>>>>>your biggest complaint I see so far is that it costs money. Now I am
>>>>>pretty experienced with computers in general and I have a hell of a
>>>>>time just installing things like netscape or staroffice in linux. I
>>>>>follow the directions to the letter (most which require console
>>>>>commands) and that doesn't do it. Nor do many variations. I have
>>>>>read alot of info on linux and when something that should be simple
>>>>>like a software install becames a huge pain, you know somethings
>>>>>wrong. And I not just talkin one distro, I am talkin redhat, debian,
>>>>>mandrake, and slackware.
>>>>>
>>>>>My arguments aren't mindless or experienceless ones but come on,
>>>>>program installation shouldn't be so difficult. I don't mind using
>>>>>the console, but I have to type in huge strings to execute the
>>>>>commands, that includes triggers and switches and such. Your talkin
>>>>>down on XP, yet I haven't seen it crash, it can format a brand new
>>>>>hdd in under 1 minute, and it boots very swiftly, and its really
>>>>>user friendly. I will always use linux for things like servers and
>>>>>net admin, no prob, but I am having a heck of a time using it as an
>>>>>everyday desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>>-Patrick
>>>>>
>>>>>  Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins at opus1.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>    -----Original Message-----
>>>>>    From: Patrick Thurmond [mailto:p_thurmond at yahoo.com]
>>>>>
>>>>>    > I will try to come in December to one of
>>>>>    > the meetings and educate everyone on the
>>>>>    > features of XP.
>>>>>
>>>>>    I think that would be a pretty poor way to spend LUG time, and a
>>>>>    very good
>>>>>    way to get yourself pelted with rotten vegetables.
>>>>>
>>>>>    We all get plenty of exposure to Microsoft's "education" as it is.
>>>>>
>>>>>    XP's primary benefit is that license fees go to Redmond.
>>>>>
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