We have several offers to host the static pages. That's not hard, any of us with a broadband connection could do it. That does leave us with a single point of failure if we lose the person providing it. The same goes with the system being as close to a box-stock Debian server - if the maintainer vanishes that's a lot easier for a new person to understand and recover. We do need the ability to send email via smtp, and that needs to come from a commercial, not residential address. There may also be an issue with the volume of malicious connection attempts, I don't know if that would be significant to a provider. It would also be nice to have a local provider, just to promote the concept of a Kansas City site/service. With that setup we could easily host a podcast with archives as well. -- Jonathan
I'm one of the static web page offerers. It seems we could spin up several copies and use DNS round-robin. Also, I've got a commercial IP address for TipJar LLC's purposes, it's a Linode in Fremont, California, but I rent it. My commercial SMTP vision is currently not running, but I would very much welcome integrating managing kclug.org e-mail into it. To sweeten the argument for "choose Tipjar!", everyone in the LUG could get an "advenge" sender-pays youchoose@kclug.org seamless forwarding address, like we're a happening and cutting edge organization from thirty years ago or something. Oh yeah, hey, that's what we are. On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 4:38 PM Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins@tarcanfel.org> wrote:
We have several offers to host the static pages. That's not hard, any of us with a broadband connection could do it. That does leave us with a single point of failure if we lose the person providing it. The same goes with the system being as close to a box-stock Debian server - if the maintainer vanishes that's a lot easier for a new person to understand and recover.
We do need the ability to send email via smtp, and that needs to come from a commercial, not residential address.
There may also be an issue with the volume of malicious connection attempts, I don't know if that would be significant to a provider.
It would also be nice to have a local provider, just to promote the concept of a Kansas City site/service. With that setup we could easily host a podcast with archives as well.
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If I was hosting it on my box in UnReal Servers' corporate data center, I promise I'm not going to complain about people trying to break into SSH. If it got on my nerves, I would just take the time to fix it myself. Kclug would get its own isolated VM with its own dedicated public v4 and v6 ips with reverse dns and unlimited transfer donated by UnReal in exchange for an UnReal Servers banner ad. Im not asking for any recognition myself for using my physical hardware. But I'd like at least one other lug member to mirror it via nightly rsync or other means to another host we all can ssh to, whether or not we round robin DNS. I want to know that if my physical host goes up in smoke, nobody needs to wait for me to fix it because someone else has a copy of what it looked like 5 minutes before the smoke came out. Can anyone else provide a VM specific to kclug in another commercial setting with a public commercial IP? On Thu, Feb 5, 2026, 16:31 Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins@tarcanfel.org> wrote:
We have several offers to host the static pages. That's not hard, any of us with a broadband connection could do it. That does leave us with a single point of failure if we lose the person providing it. The same goes with the system being as close to a box-stock Debian server - if the maintainer vanishes that's a lot easier for a new person to understand and recover.
We do need the ability to send email via smtp, and that needs to come from a commercial, not residential address.
There may also be an issue with the volume of malicious connection attempts, I don't know if that would be significant to a provider.
It would also be nice to have a local provider, just to promote the concept of a Kansas City site/service. With that setup we could easily host a podcast with archives as well.
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I yield to Billy Croan's custom VM, and offer to mirror static web pages via rsync. When Advenge gets testable again (I don't know how "spamless" turned into "seamless" in my previous) I'll surely let the LUG know about it. On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 9:31 PM Billy Croan <Billy@croan.org> wrote:
If I was hosting it on my box in UnReal Servers' corporate data center
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It would be a fun project to distribute the website. I have the code parts of it in a git repo. (All the photos, video, and audio are 1GB). At one point I had a partially working static version of the site, but other projects took priority. It's currently a bunch of tiny PHP files that are combined to generate the page. The only tricky part is that the mailing list web interface is also hosted by the web server. We could break that out to it's own subdomain and only host it on the one running the list. On Fri, Feb 6, 2026, at 05:26, David Nicol wrote:
I yield to Billy Croan's custom VM, and offer to mirror static web pages via rsync.
When Advenge gets testable again (I don't know how "spamless" turned into "seamless" in my previous) I'll surely let the LUG know about it.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 9:31 PM Billy Croan <Billy@croan.org> wrote:
If I was hosting it on my box in UnReal Servers' corporate data center
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I was thinking about this. Have you ever considered containerization for the site? That would make it very portable as the entire thing could be defined in code then run pretty much anywhere. From: Chris Bier <chris.bier@cymor.com> Sent: Monday, February 9, 2026 3:48 PM To: KCLUG <kclug@kclug.org> Subject: Re: KCLUG hosting It would be a fun project to distribute the website. I have the code parts of it in a git repo. (All the photos, video, and audio are 1GB). At one point I had a partially working static version of the site, but other projects took priority. It would be a fun project to distribute the website. I have the code parts of it in a git repo. (All the photos, video, and audio are 1GB). At one point I had a partially working static version of the site, but other projects took priority. It's currently a bunch of tiny PHP files that are combined to generate the page. The only tricky part is that the mailing list web interface is also hosted by the web server. We could break that out to it's own subdomain and only host it on the one running the list. On Fri, Feb 6, 2026, at 05:26, David Nicol wrote: I yield to Billy Croan's custom VM, and offer to mirror static web pages via rsync. When Advenge gets testable again (I don't know how "spamless" turned into "seamless" in my previous) I'll surely let the LUG know about it. On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 9:31 PM Billy Croan <Billy@croan.org<mailto:Billy@croan.org>> wrote: If I was hosting it on my box in UnReal Servers' corporate data center -- "Plot complication appearing on sensors now" _______________________________________________ KCLUG mailing list -- kclug@kclug.org<mailto:kclug@kclug.org> To unsubscribe send an email to kclug-leave@kclug.org<mailto:kclug-leave@kclug.org> https://kclug.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/kclug.kclug.org/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/kclug.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/kclug.kclug.org/__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!VC0xzety603gzu2LIpl9tKp3TXdUW9hg3FC_8xV0S4BE9a-cTMCQK-04zMnw2bxKu10C64GbStNQruo_lPASIQ$> ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be Garmin confidential and/or Garmin legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you.
It wouldn't be too hard. I think a couple of us have worked on converting it to a static site, but other projects have pulled focus. On Mon, Feb 9, 2026, at 16:01, Gilmore, Steve wrote:
I was thinking about this. Have you ever considered containerization for the site? That would make it very portable as the entire thing could be defined in code then run pretty much anywhere.
*From:* Chris Bier <chris.bier@cymor.com> *Sent:* Monday, February 9, 2026 3:48 PM *To:* KCLUG <kclug@kclug.org> *Subject:* Re: KCLUG hosting
It would be a fun project to distribute the website. I have the code parts of it in a git repo. (All the photos, video, and audio are 1GB). At one point I had a partially working static version of the site, but other projects took priority.
It would be a fun project to distribute the website. I have the code parts of it in a git repo. (All the photos, video, and audio are 1GB). At one point I had a partially working static version of the site, but other projects took priority. It's currently a bunch of tiny PHP files that are combined to generate the page.
The only tricky part is that the mailing list web interface is also hosted by the web server. We could break that out to it's own subdomain and only host it on the one running the list.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2026, at 05:26, David Nicol wrote:
I yield to Billy Croan's custom VM, and offer to mirror static web pages via rsync.
When Advenge gets testable again (I don't know how "spamless" turned into "seamless" in my previous) I'll surely let the LUG know about it.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 9:31 PM Billy Croan <Billy@croan.org> wrote:
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Wow. https://kclug.org/audioarchive/readme and everything else could get updated a bit. Why is it PHP? There isn't anything dynamic. On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 3:48 PM Chris Bier <chris.bier@cymor.com> wrote:
It would be a fun project to distribute the website. I have the code parts of it in a git repo. (All the photos, video, and audio are 1GB). At one point I had a partially working static version of the site, but other projects took priority. It's currently a bunch of tiny PHP files that are combined to generate the page.
The only tricky part is that the mailing list web interface is also hosted by the web server. We could break that out to it's own subdomain and only host it on the one running the list.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2026, at 05:26, David Nicol wrote:
I yield to Billy Croan's custom VM, and offer to mirror static web pages via rsync.
When Advenge gets testable again (I don't know how "spamless" turned into "seamless" in my previous) I'll surely let the LUG know about it.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 9:31 PM Billy Croan <Billy@croan.org> wrote:
If I was hosting it on my box in UnReal Servers' corporate data center
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25 years ago, it was the happening thing. On Mon, Feb 9, 2026, at 23:16, David Nicol wrote:
Wow. https://kclug.org/audioarchive/readme and everything else could get updated a bit. Why is it PHP? There isn't anything dynamic.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2026 at 3:48 PM Chris Bier <chris.bier@cymor.com> wrote:
__ It would be a fun project to distribute the website. I have the code parts of it in a git repo. (All the photos, video, and audio are 1GB). At one point I had a partially working static version of the site, but other projects took priority. It's currently a bunch of tiny PHP files that are combined to generate the page.
The only tricky part is that the mailing list web interface is also hosted by the web server. We could break that out to it's own subdomain and only host it on the one running the list.
On Fri, Feb 6, 2026, at 05:26, David Nicol wrote:
I yield to Billy Croan's custom VM, and offer to mirror static web pages via rsync.
When Advenge gets testable again (I don't know how "spamless" turned into "seamless" in my previous) I'll surely let the LUG know about it.
On Thu, Feb 5, 2026 at 9:31 PM Billy Croan <Billy@croan.org> wrote:
If I was hosting it on my box in UnReal Servers' corporate data center
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Testing This is my last message from the group Spam box is empty. I wonder if it's getting filtered/rejected even from that? On February 9, 2026 11:16:28 PM CST, David Nicol <davidnicol@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow. https://kclug.org/audioarchive/readme and everything else could get updated a bit. Why is it PHP? There isn't anything dynamic.
On 02/18/2026 9:21 AM CST Tyrus elias <tyrus@livelifetoday.info> wrote:
Testing This is my last message from the group Spam box is empty. I wonder if it's getting filtered/rejected even from that?
Mail on the list is pretty sporadic. Not knowing what system you're reading it with we can't offer much. I received your message through the list. -- Jonathan
I have an odd issue where 2 out of 3 email servers from my provider can't talk to kclug.org. I've been reviewing the firewall to try and see if we've been too aggressive on some of the settings. On Wed, Feb 18, 2026, at 11:26, Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
On 02/18/2026 9:21 AM CST Tyrus elias <tyrus@livelifetoday.info> wrote:
Testing This is my last message from the group Spam box is empty. I wonder if it's getting filtered/rejected even from that?
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