Just playing around with Face[1] support in Gnus, and was wondering if anyone else can see the image attached to this message? There are several clients that listed support in 2006, I'm wondering if any more have gotten it. Footnotes: [1] Face is an update to X-Face which allows you to display a picture in the header of your message, http://quimby.gnus.org/circus/face/ -- Thanks, Kyle Sexton
No images or attachments visable using gmail. On Feb 7, 2008 10:38 PM, Kyle Sexton <ks@mocker.org> wrote:
Just playing around with Face[1] support in Gnus, and was wondering if anyone else can see the image attached to this message? There are several clients that listed support in 2006, I'm wondering if any more have gotten it.
Footnotes: [1] Face is an update to X-Face which allows you to display a picture in the header of your message, http://quimby.gnus.org/circus/face/
-- Thanks, Kyle Sexton _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
The Face header is in the Email source; Subject: "Face" support in mail readers From: Kyle Sexton <ks@mocker.org> Organization: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEURBACjfm79/fuKYFKV a1xrQjZ9VUc3IRXIvrr///+dRJhdAAACQ0lEQVQ4jV3UMZOjIBQAYJqMNROS2MpcYUoGtWfE7Jab yaLtZYxsa6PUyeRy1nb+23tqIOZojHzhAc8HaIBGh6EP/Wvid5Tuh7mh+bGnD49tkUo+b/QNaFCj lf7x2si/7RdA6Q6huvnyGoafMkFP/9QIIa9GRkfYpw5o8IXQJF5TifM0BE0DPtDcDKrb47qzQH8Z Dz2HGLQ6TLEm+Ivq5xDPqLrxbxZ2c98UrFHFp4PfHnQXZloZiHBQeygvI55oY0xtcmYhNLWXc4kx PuiqMA3rHCDvFAk8NpKY5vwGUmD/OsqPOVqABALgGXD2gnAEiORPwXCxBHOapxhjFW4OWK6dG9ra uFUFyCtLgGkKvG3EE/pHveKVytlzxCtX96JJKlWYI/TqaN3OsB/6+0fDtVK6FCns+7u1ae/vu5bH xhRaZFVefZ8cXDctT8oDzJIpSMgL7lkbSS65ZpmuFLu4L3iPW0mITLXYch7hS2ch2IyZwmnC1uM2 mS2GPiTl/DEYeYOBXkcgWS5IBM8FhCOksRZyBHGzc+wpl3LNY3WJLwC+q8QBgPA0gd3DDzllxIHg POW6TEspF0XdaymgS5CUw1+6xTFIIkFgCikPPGVL2F4EkTxRKhdcLA/OBtZLJJZpRPTbiXrAQcIS mkjnFFoI9FihAESfuyWEupzLJIVIS6APPQbDMj7P23MQaK0ZVLQS3fIC6Hu6zTWPeHWy59/eDH1Q 5Rpy5QY4oNdKKcW623+XDFwaHVRoZ6+YF8AY2sGtZF+Hf369mzp6z7LrAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC But Dana is right about Gmail not doing anything with it. Regards, Steven On Feb 7, 2008 10:38 PM, Kyle Sexton <ks@mocker.org> wrote:
Just playing around with Face[1] support in Gnus, and was wondering if anyone else can see the image attached to this message? There are several clients that listed support in 2006, I'm wondering if any more have gotten it.
Footnotes: [1] Face is an update to X-Face which allows you to display a picture in the header of your message, http://quimby.gnus.org/circus/face/
-- Thanks, Kyle Sexton _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
On Fri, February 8, 2008 08:13, Steven Hildreth wrote:
The Face header is in the Email source;
Subject: "Face" support in mail readers From: Kyle Sexton < ks@mocker.org <mailto:ks@mocker.org> > Organization: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAHlBMVEURBACjfm79/fuKYFKV
Good grief, is that a binary image in mime? I thought HTML mail "stationary" was bad. Email is text, especially for mailing lists. Don't go spamming the world with unnecessary binary junk!
GMail. Me No See. sorry. On Feb 7, 2008 10:38 PM, Kyle Sexton <ks@mocker.org> wrote:
Just playing around with Face[1] support in Gnus, and was wondering if anyone else can see the image attached to this message? There are several clients that listed support in 2006, I'm wondering if any more have gotten it.
Footnotes: [1] Face is an update to X-Face which allows you to display a picture in the header of your message, http://quimby.gnus.org/circus/face/
-- Thanks, Kyle Sexton _______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
"Lee Brandt" <leebrandt@gmail.com> writes:
GMail. Me No See. sorry.
For everyone that can't see it and wants to know what the Face header does, you can check it out on gmane: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.kansascity Definitely a complete waste of time. :P -- Thanks, Kyle Sexton
with the way that gmail shows faces for people who have registered a face with the gmail system, it's kind of surprising that they haven't bothered to support X-Face and Face both inbound and outbound. I put it into their suggestion box every time this topic comes up, but they must be busy doing other things. On Feb 8, 2008 8:24 AM, Kyle Sexton <ks@mocker.org> wrote:
"Lee Brandt" <leebrandt@gmail.com> writes:
GMail. Me No See. sorry.
On Fri, February 8, 2008 09:42, David Nicol wrote:
with the way that gmail shows faces for people who have registered a face with the gmail system, it's kind of surprising that they haven't bothered to support X-Face and Face both inbound and outbound.
I don't agree. Within gmail, all they do is link the address to the image so they can pull it up for display. This business of sending a whole image with each message is stupid and wasteful, and I'm going to find a way to filter or block messages that use it. Some people actually use their email. We're talking a few hundred messages a day, and the storage adds up even if it's only text. If it's a chain of negotiation or diagnostics in a business situation, the chain needs to be saved permanently. Take a few dozen people in an office, mailing images, drawings, supporting documents, require that things not be deleted or archived for 90 days or so, and you have a real storage problem. Throw in a bunch of idiots using HTML messages with logos and stationary and faces and icards and you've got a REAL headache. Email is text. If you want graphics, throw up a web page somewhere.
Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
Email is text. If you want graphics, throw up a web page somewhere.
You do realize the header is a maximum of 998 bytes. Even with 10,000 email you are talking about 10MB of drive space. With the price of hard drives today being what they are ($70 for a 250GB, $0.00000028 per MB) I am not sure your point is valid, if your point is space consumption. Personally I think it's spiffy to see the author image on the email gives some personality and allows for some creativity. Regards, Steven
On Fri, February 8, 2008 14:18, Steven Hildreth wrote:
Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
Email is text. If you want graphics, throw up a web page somewhere.
You do realize the header is a maximum of 998 bytes. Even with 10,000 email you are talking about 10MB of drive space.
Plus the HTML format that does a complete copy of the text and lots of usually badly formed redundant markup, plus the background image, and the logo for the header, and the signature image...
With the price of hard drives today being what they are ($70 for a 250GB, $0.00000028 per MB) I am not sure your point is valid, if your point is space consumption.
Yes, you or I can go get one of those and throw it on our home frankenputer, but I can't upgrade my blade server that's only got one drive space, or increment my NAS device nearly as cheaply or easily - to say nothing of the cost of the time to do the paperwork to authorize the work!
Personally I think it's spiffy to see the author image on the email gives some personality and allows for some creativity.
You tap that MIME code out in morse for me on a single action key, then we'll talk.
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9K for three lines of text. An excellent demonstration! On Feb 8, 2008 4:48 PM, Luke -Jr <luke@dashjr.org> wrote:
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On Fri, February 8, 2008 14:18, Steven Hildreth wrote:
Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
Email is text. If you want graphics, throw up a web page somewhere.
You do realize the header is a maximum of 998 bytes. Even with 10,000 email you are talking about 10MB of drive space.
Plus the HTML format that does a complete copy of the text and lots of usually badly formed redundant markup, plus the background image, and the logo for the header, and the signature image...
With the price of hard drives today being what they are ($70 for a 250GB, $0.00000028 per MB) I am not sure your point is valid, if your point is space consumption.
Yes, you or I can go get one of those and throw it on our home frankenputer, but I can't upgrade my blade server that's only got one drive space, or increment my NAS device nearly as cheaply or easily - to say nothing of the cost of the time to do the paperwork to authorize the work!
Personally I think it's spiffy to see the author image on the email gives some personality and allows for some creativity.
You tap that MIME code out in morse for me on a single action key, then we'll talk.
On Fri, February 8, 2008 14:18, Steven Hildreth wrote:
Jonathan Hutchins wrote:
Email is text. If you want graphics, throw up a web page somewhere.
You do realize the header is a maximum of 998 bytes. Even with 10,000 email you are talking about 10MB of drive space.
Plus the HTML format that does a complete copy of the text and lots of usually badly formed redundant markup, plus the background image, and the logo for the header, and the signature image...
With the price of hard drives today being what they are ($70 for a 250GB, $0.00000028 per MB) I am not sure your point is valid, if your point is space consumption.
Yes, you or I can go get one of those and throw it on our home frankenputer, but I can't upgrade my blade server that's only got one drive space, or increment my NAS device nearly as cheaply or easily - to say nothing of the cost of the time to do the paperwork to authorize the work!
Personally I think it's spiffy to see the author image on the email gives some personality and allows for some creativity.
You tap that MIME code out in morse for me on a single action key, then we'll talk. Seriously, we used to run mailservers as background processes on other servers. With the power they take now to do spam, trojan, and virus scanning, this company's new mailserver will be dedicated, and will be the most powerful machine in house. The more useless crap you stuff in what should be a plain text message, the more chances there are for infection, and the more we have to scan.
http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.kansascity/13584 is a better link and scroll down. -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Sexton Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 8:25 AM To: Lee Brandt "Lee Brandt" <> writes:
GMail. Me No See. sorry.
For everyone that can't see it and wants to know what the Face header does, you can check it out on gmane: http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.user-groups.linux.kansascity Definitely a complete waste of time. :P -- Thanks, Kyle Sexton
With the MessageFace extension it works in Thunderbird. ~Bradley Kyle Sexton wrote:
Just playing around with Face[1] support in Gnus, and was wondering if anyone else can see the image attached to this message? There are several clients that listed support in 2006, I'm wondering if any more have gotten it.
Footnotes: [1] Face is an update to X-Face which allows you to display a picture in the header of your message, http://quimby.gnus.org/circus/face/
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