Well, the votes are in, it looks like godaddy gets three votes, poehosting gets one and dyndns gets one. Oh, and as far as the backup mailserver goes, email is relatively self-healing anyway. I say that a backup for kclug is unnecessary. Almost all mail servers will keep trying for five days or so, and if the mailman server is on a machine that's not accepting mail, storing rejected mail on a backup won't really help matters any. Regards, -Don
--- Don Erickson <derick@zeni.net> wrote:
Well, the votes are in, it looks like godaddy gets three votes, poehosting gets one and dyndns gets one.
I rather liked the service offered by Yahoo Web Hosting, and it came recommended to me by my father-in-law's church (he's a minister) who uses them for their website. We used it to set up my wife's artist website. Domain registration came free with $12 a month basic webhosting (5GB website, 200GB/month bandwidth), and it comes with a lot more stuff than godaddy's basic webhosting. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Luke-Jr wrote:
For the record, I'll vote *against* GoDaddy.
Okay, what specifically do you not like about them? Did you have a bad experience, do you not like their service, or what? I'm really just curious about how experiences with domain registration / renewal / changes etc., but I was essentially set to switch all my domains over to godaddy when they come up for renewal. WHat else should I know? Regards, -Don
On Sunday 19 February 2006 19:01, Don Erickson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Luke-Jr wrote:
For the record, I'll vote *against* GoDaddy.
Okay, what specifically do you not like about them? Did you have a bad experience, do you not like their service, or what?
Primarily, I left GoDaddy due to their blatant immorality. For a start, they purposely make controversial (liberally sexual, IIRC) and immoral advertisements. I have also heard many cases of GoDaddy purposely selling typo-based domain names for porn and similar illicit websites. They also only manage your DNS if you use their DNS servers *only* (minor issue, and may have changed, etc). That all, and the fact that there was nothing to *gain* from using GoDaddy (the UI is nice, but MyDomain's isn't much worse). About the only thing I actually miss is the interface they have for nameserver registrations (anyone know how that works, BTW?).
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Luke-Jr wrote:
Primarily, I left GoDaddy due to their blatant immorality. For a start, they purposely make controversial (liberally sexual, IIRC) and immoral advertisements.
Hmmmm, liberally sexual and immoral advertisements. I must have missed those. Check.
I have also heard many cases of GoDaddy purposely selling typo-based domain names for porn and similar illicit websites.
Probably registered oogle.com and yahooo.com to porno-pervananceiers. Check.
They also only manage your DNS if you use their DNS servers *only* (minor issue, and may have changed, etc).
Now, this one I don't understand. How can anybody manage your DNS on someone else's server? They direct dns queries to whatever hosts you designate, and that's it. That's all anybody can do. I appreciate your feedback, thanks for replying. Competence and price are my two primary requisites, godaddy still looks good on those counts. I admit that I support several immoral business industries already, (gas, food, lodging, etc. etc.) and I pay taxes to an immoral government and vote for immoral politicians. I buy immoral products and computers made in China and, horrors of horrors, I run Linux. A cheap, competent, albeit immoral domain registrar would not budge the meter one bit. Regards, -Don
Quoting Don Erickson <derick@zeni.net>:
I appreciate your feedback, thanks for replying. Competence and price are my two primary requisites, godaddy still looks good on those counts.
My domain may yet turn into a pillar of salt. I've been using Godaddy for the last four or five years with good results. <rant> Im/morality is in the eye of the beholder. Conservatives look at Godaddy's Superbowl commercials and say they're immoral because they feature well endowed females. Liberals take offense at the "sexual exploitation", though I'm guessing she was paid quite well and enjoyed the "work". Personally, I appreciate the human form in both of its sexes and most of its shapes and sizes. In my mind, real immorality was perpetrated by execs at Enron, WorldCom, Tyco and countless others... see Don's list. </rant> -- Dave Hull http://insipid.com
On Monday 20 February 2006 05:00, Don Erickson wrote:
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, Luke-Jr wrote:
I have also heard many cases of GoDaddy purposely selling typo-based domain names for porn and similar illicit websites.
Probably registered oogle.com and yahooo.com to porno-pervananceiers. Check.
Nah, their patterns suggest that they determine high-traffic domains and suggest those to the porno sites.
They also only manage your DNS if you use their DNS servers *only* (minor issue, and may have changed, etc).
Now, this one I don't understand. How can anybody manage your DNS on someone else's server? They direct dns queries to whatever hosts you designate, and that's it. That's all anybody can do.
Most who register domains also include usage of their DNS servers. In some cases, you could use those as backup DNS in case your primaries go down.
I appreciate your feedback, thanks for replying. Competence and price are my two primary requisites, godaddy still looks good on those counts.
Most registrars are fine on those counts.
I admit that I support several immoral business industries already, (gas, food, lodging, etc. etc.) and I pay taxes to an immoral government and vote for immoral politicians. I buy immoral products and computers made in China and, horrors of horrors, I run Linux.
Linux is anything but immoral...
On Mon, 20 Feb 2006, Luke-Jr wrote:
They also only manage your DNS if you use their DNS servers *only* (minor issue, and may have changed, etc).
Now, this one I don't understand. How can anybody manage your DNS on someone else's server? They direct dns queries to whatever hosts you designate, and that's it. That's all anybody can do.
Most who register domains also include usage of their DNS servers. In some cases, you could use those as backup DNS in case your primaries go down.
That much I do understand. However, I run bind 8.4.6 on three different servers, and nobody can edit the master zone files from some random website. Why would this be desirable? Now, to host slave DNS servers for a domain might be worthwhile...
I appreciate your feedback, thanks for replying. Competence and price are my two primary requisites, godaddy still looks good on those counts.
Most registrars are fine on those counts.
Well, the whole point of this exercise is that I have been using registerfly, and they have proven, through my own personal experience, not to be. I only control 14 domains currently, but it does mean that I'd much rather have a competent registrar than try to explain to commercial clents why their domain got screwed up. In a business where a great deal of the infrastructure is poorly understood by most users, explantions of another's incompetence don't go over too well.
Linux is anything but immoral...
Microsoft shills were floating a premise a few years back that Linux and the GPL were immoral because they stole the intellectual property of others. I do agree that it's not much of an argument. Regards, -Don
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