Summary for those not having heard of this yet- CdC has made a seemingly "Back Orfice" level tool for Google's website deep scanning potential I am curious how much is hype and what is real? Yes, technically it's still a winap only , but their source is claimed to be open. Anything that can expose holes is a Very Good Thing. Anyone claiming otherwise is literally emulating an Ostrich. -- Oren Beck 816.729.3645