RE: TV-OUT on laptop causes major damage, fire / shock
I suspect that the guts of the Inspiron 8xxx adaptors is quite the same. With perhaps minor variations for connectors. The reason being to be able to "lock-in" users to a proprietary adaptor. Much like what vendors have done with batteries. I could be wrong, it might be that each laptop has different power needs, still they could have generalized the adaptors. Just because one model is being recalled doesn't mean that other models aren't also having problems. It's generally "cheaper", to face the lawsuits than it is to fix a component with a faulty design, from a purely actuarial point of view. Brian Densmore
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Bruno
Only certain ac adaptors are sold with specific dell models. There is only 1 kind of Inspiron 8500 AC, and only 1 kind of Inspiron 8200 adaptor, the 8100 adaptor is on recall
On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 10:13 -0600, djgoku wrote:
That is really weird, but why would your model of laptop matter it is the ac adaptor not that laptop on the recall. Hope you figure out what went wrong and the problem is fixed.
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:02:50 -0600, Thomas Bruno <crweb@vwords.com> wrote:
Bad part of the ac adaptor recall is, my system is one of
the very few
systems that the recall does not cover... wierd eh?
On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 09:19 -0600, Keith Savasten wrote:
I'm still in a state of panic/shock as to what just
happened. I
will be researching legal options now, as my laptop warranty ended because the dell wouldn't let me renew because of a mix up, and other things that have built up (like sending it in for fan swap to have it come back not even turning it on), now this.. a laptop I'm totally terrified of even turning on.
I wonder why DELL is recalling 4.5 million power adaptors that "may overheat causing fire or electrical shock". That is an awful lot of units to replace with only seven incidents reported to them.
Keith Savasten
Consumer Product Safety Commission
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml05/05004.html
The dell recall website:
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On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 10:57 -0600, Brian Densmore wrote:
I suspect that the guts of the Inspiron 8xxx adaptors is quite the same. With perhaps minor variations for connectors. The reason being to be able to "lock-in" users to a proprietary adaptor. Much like what vendors have done with batteries. I could be wrong, it might be that each laptop has different power needs, still they could have generalized the adaptors. Just because one model is being recalled doesn't mean that other models aren't also having problems. It's generally "cheaper", to face the lawsuits than it is to fix a component with a faulty design, from a purely actuarial point of view.
I have someone looking for the sticker with the adaptor info on it, and I'm going to contact dell to see if it is a recall model. However, this isn't even anything like what the recall was about, is it?
Brian Densmore
-----Original Message----- From: Thomas Bruno
Only certain ac adaptors are sold with specific dell models. There is only 1 kind of Inspiron 8500 AC, and only 1 kind of Inspiron 8200 adaptor, the 8100 adaptor is on recall
On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 10:13 -0600, djgoku wrote:
That is really weird, but why would your model of laptop matter it is the ac adaptor not that laptop on the recall. Hope you figure out what went wrong and the problem is fixed.
On Fri, 03 Dec 2004 10:02:50 -0600, Thomas Bruno <crweb@vwords.com> wrote:
Bad part of the ac adaptor recall is, my system is one of
the very few
systems that the recall does not cover... wierd eh?
On Fri, 2004-12-03 at 09:19 -0600, Keith Savasten wrote:
I'm still in a state of panic/shock as to what just
happened. I
will be researching legal options now, as my laptop warranty ended because the dell wouldn't let me renew because of a mix up, and other things that have built up (like sending it in for fan swap to have it come back not even turning it on), now this.. a laptop I'm totally terrified of even turning on.
I wonder why DELL is recalling 4.5 million power adaptors that "may overheat causing fire or electrical shock". That is an awful lot of units to replace with only seven incidents reported to them.
Keith Savasten
Consumer Product Safety Commission
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml05/05004.html
The dell recall website:
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On Friday 03 December 2004 10:57 am, Brian Densmore wrote:
I suspect that the guts of the Inspiron 8xxx adaptors is quite the same. With perhaps minor variations for connectors.
If they're decent manufacturers, they change the connector when the voltages change. Over the course of four years with a company, I saw six or seven different IBM laptop models in use, and all of the power supplies were interchangable. Some were larger, some different shapes, some had three prong power cords and some two, and some had slightly different current ratings, but they all were the same voltage and worked with all the different models. (There was one model that wouldn't work with the oldest of the power supplies because it didn't have quite enough capacity to both run the laptop and charge the battery.) I took advantage of this interchangability to make sure all the people who actually took their laptops out of the office had a spare power supply so they could leave the one at their desk plugged in. Winbook, on the other hand, has changed the voltage and current requirements over the years, and their power supplies are not interchangable; they use different size connectors. As for the recall, frequently recalls are attributed to a bad batch of a single component, or a problem in the assembly process, and they frequently only cover a certain range of serial numbers. Recalls due to a design defect are much rarer, and would tend to cover a whole model line.
On Fri, Dec 03, 2004 at 10:57:12AM -0600, Brian Densmore wrote:
connectors. The reason being to be able to "lock-in" users to a proprietary adaptor. Much like what vendors have done with batteries. I could be wrong, it might be
It's true about laptop batteries. Just try to find a laptop vendor that will provide a warranty for a battery for over one year. You just can't do it. They'll be glad to sell you a new one though. I had to deal with some of this from IBM. For 1600 laptops. Not fun. Regarding the Dell recall, I just had one replaced that was on the recall list. It was for a Latitude C640. Only specific ones are part of it though. I'm guessing that a company wouldn't be too ethusiastic about taking the blame for their bad component causing damage to other components. Jeremy
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