All, I have the following system configuration: Generic White box computer Intel Celeron 466mhz processor 256 MB RAM 20 GB PATA Hard Drive ZyXEK U-1496e External Data/Fax/Voice Modem Realtek 10/100 nic Red Hat Linux 9 Sendmail v 8.12 Before I go further, I have NO desire to update or upgrade any hardware, software, or OS in this system! All devices are working properly. I am using vocp to auto answer my voice modem, take messages, encode those messages into OGG formatted attachments and attempting to use sendmail to send my messages to my hotmail or gmail accounts. Everything works great until I try to send my messages to an external mailserver. In other words, my messages can be accessed from my local mail account whe I send them to say root@localhost.localdomain, but when I try to mail to jmccright@hotmail.com, my messages bounce. I know absolutely nothing about sendmail and I am using a default configuration of Sendmail. What am I missing? Is there some change I need to make to my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file to allow me to send to external mailservers? Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search...
I haven't used sendmail itself, but I can tell you you shouldn't send directly to the hotmail smtp server. They probably will block you as spam because they don't know where you're coming from. You should relay through your ISP's outgoing smtp server. With roadrunner that's smtp-server.kc.rr.com. It allows any clients within the RR network to connect and relay out through it. If it still bounces, you should make it appear to come from a RR address like MyAnsweringMachine@kc.rr.com. The problem, I'm guessing, has less to do with sendmail, and more to do with bounce policy at hotmail and other email carriers. On 3/10/07, Jeffrey McCright <jmccright@hotmail.com> wrote:
All,
I have the following system configuration: Generic White box computer Intel Celeron 466mhz processor 256 MB RAM 20 GB PATA Hard Drive ZyXEK U-1496e External Data/Fax/Voice Modem Realtek 10/100 nic Red Hat Linux 9 Sendmail v 8.12
Before I go further, I have NO desire to update or upgrade any hardware, software, or OS in this system!
All devices are working properly. I am using vocp to auto answer my voice modem, take messages, encode those messages into OGG formatted attachments and attempting to use sendmail to send my messages to my hotmail or gmail accounts. Everything works great until I try to send my messages to an external mailserver. In other words, my messages can be accessed from my local mail account whe I send them to say root@localhost.localdomain, but when I try to mail to jmccright@hotmail.com, my messages bounce. I know absolutely nothing about sendmail and I am using a default configuration of Sendmail. What am I missing? Is there some change I need to make to my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file to allow me to send to external mailservers?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
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Hmmm.. OK, that makes sense. Where do I go to tell sendmail to relay through SBCGlobal's SMTP? Is that an entry in the sendmail.cf file? Thanks for your help, Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
From: "Billy Crook" <billycrook@gmail.com> To: "Jeffrey McCright" <jmccright@hotmail.com> CC: kclug@kclug.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Help request Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:52:31 -0600
I haven't used sendmail itself, but I can tell you you shouldn't send directly to the hotmail smtp server. They probably will block you as spam because they don't know where you're coming from. You should relay through your ISP's outgoing smtp server. With roadrunner that's smtp-server.kc.rr.com. It allows any clients within the RR network to connect and relay out through it. If it still bounces, you should make it appear to come from a RR address like MyAnsweringMachine@kc.rr.com. The problem, I'm guessing, has less to do with sendmail, and more to do with bounce policy at hotmail and other email carriers.
On 3/10/07, Jeffrey McCright <jmccright@hotmail.com> wrote:
All,
I have the following system configuration: Generic White box computer Intel Celeron 466mhz processor 256 MB RAM 20 GB PATA Hard Drive ZyXEK U-1496e External Data/Fax/Voice Modem Realtek 10/100 nic Red Hat Linux 9 Sendmail v 8.12
Before I go further, I have NO desire to update or upgrade any hardware, software, or OS in this system!
All devices are working properly. I am using vocp to auto answer my voice modem, take messages, encode those messages into OGG formatted attachments and attempting to use sendmail to send my messages to my hotmail or gmail accounts. Everything works great until I try to send my messages to an external mailserver. In other words, my messages can be accessed from my local mail account whe I send them to say root@localhost.localdomain, but when I try to mail to jmccright@hotmail.com, my messages bounce. I know absolutely nothing about sendmail and I am using a default configuration of Sendmail. What am I missing? Is there some change I need to make to my /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file to allow me to send to external mailservers?
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide,
Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
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Jeff, You may have a /etc/mail/sendmail.mc file, which in turns creates the sendmail.cf file. In that you should see SMART_HOST. Set that to the relay server that SBC provides. I don't ever modify the sendmail.cf file, but make my changes in the sendmail.mc file. -- Hal Duston hald@kc.rr.com On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:59:55PM -0600, Jeffrey McCright wrote:
Hmmm.. OK, that makes sense. Where do I go to tell sendmail to relay through SBCGlobal's SMTP? Is that an entry in the sendmail.cf file?
Thanks for your help,
Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
Hal, Cool!! You got me one step closer. I am looking at the sendmail.mc file now, but I do not see where I can pass authentication information to my provider's SMTP Server. I see several entries that look promising, but I am unsure of the syntax required. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
From: Hal Duston <hald@kc.rr.com> To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Help request Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:20:04 -0600
Jeff,
You may have a /etc/mail/sendmail.mc file, which in turns creates the sendmail.cf file. In that you should see SMART_HOST. Set that to the relay server that SBC provides. I don't ever modify the sendmail.cf file, but make my changes in the sendmail.mc file.
-- Hal Duston hald@kc.rr.com
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 12:59:55PM -0600, Jeffrey McCright wrote:
Hmmm.. OK, that makes sense. Where do I go to tell sendmail to relay through SBCGlobal's SMTP? Is that an entry in the sendmail.cf file?
Thanks for your help,
Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
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On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 02:39:23PM -0600, Jeffrey McCright wrote:
Hal,
Jeff,
Cool!! You got me one step closer. I am looking at the sendmail.mc file now, but I do not see where I can pass authentication information to my provider's SMTP Server. I see several entries that look promising, but I am unsure of the syntax required. Any help is greatly appreciated.
First verify that SBC requires authentication at all. I am on Roadrunner, and they do not require it since I am verifiably on their network. If you still require authentication, I found this which appears to walk you through what is necessary. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8732573~mode=full
Thanks,
Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
Hal Duston -- hald@kc.rr.com
Hal, You are the man!! That was exactly what I needed. It works like a charm. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been fighting this thing for over a week. You know, it all sounded so simple, and I was able to get everything else working pretty easily until I got to the Sendmail part of this project. Hal, I owe you one! Oh, and FYI: Southwestern Bell (sbcglobal) does in fact require authentication to relay through their SMTP servers at least through their DSL Customer network. Thanks again! Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
From: Hal Duston <hald@kc.rr.com> To: kclug@kclug.org Subject: Re: Sendmail Help request Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:02:03 -0600
On Sat, Mar 10, 2007 at 02:39:23PM -0600, Jeffrey McCright wrote:
Hal,
Jeff,
Cool!! You got me one step closer. I am looking at the sendmail.mc file now, but I do not see where I can pass authentication information to my provider's SMTP Server. I see several entries that look promising, but I am unsure of the syntax required. Any help is greatly appreciated.
First verify that SBC requires authentication at all. I am on Roadrunner, and they do not require it since I am verifiably on their network. If you still require authentication, I found this which appears to walk you through what is necessary.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8732573~mode=full
Thanks,
Jeffrey A. McCright, A+ jmccright@hotmail.com jeff.mccright@gmail.com
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Way to go Hal! Do you (or anyone else) know if it's possible to specify a fall-back routing for mail in either sendmail or another mailer? Allow mail to be delivered directly to intelligently configured servers, but fall back to ISP routing for those using brain-dead configurations like Ironmail appliances or other inaccurate IP-range blocking services. Given that we're unlikely to be able to deploy enough cluebats to cure IP-range blocking, it seems like a logical feature.
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