RE: Ubuntu and Kubuntu vs. Mepis.... Gentoo?
Why has Gentoo fallen out of favor? Doesn't anyone use Gentoo anymore besides me? Gentoo's portage and emerge utility rivals that of Debian's app-get. 2006.0 LiveCD even has a graphical installer available, though any true Linux user should be ashamed of using such a thing. ;-) I find building and compiling a fresh Gentoo installation very satisfying. I would have thought there would be more people like me on the KLUG list...
On 4/5/06, Jeremy Fowler <JFowler@westrope.com> wrote:
Why has Gentoo fallen out of favor? Doesn't anyone use Gentoo anymore besides me? Gentoo's portage and emerge utility rivals that of Debian's app-get. 2006.0 LiveCD even has a graphical installer available, though any true Linux user should be ashamed of using such a thing. ;-) I find building and compiling a fresh Gentoo installation very satisfying. I would have thought there would be more people like me on the KLUG list...
I'm still kicking along with Gentoo...did the graphical install of 2006.0 on my desktop at work (with a LOT of helping it out myself, as it had a lot of situations where it would not resolve dependencies correctly, and plus the machine in question had bad RAM for a while). I was going to do the graphical install at home too when something went badwrong recently, but apparently the GUI installer is x86 only for now, and I'm amd64 at home. Oh well, the old way still works. :-) While I'm at it, I'll put in a plug for the system that kept my data safe so I could nuke my home machine and start over. I'm using BackupPC. http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ I've got an old dual-Pentium III machine in the basement with a 6-disk RAID5 array holding the backup data..can handle up to two disks going bad before data loss happens. Using BackupPC I can restore data easily from a web interface. It's saved my bacon plenty of times. -- Kendric Beachey
Jeremy Fowler <JFowler@westrope.com> wrote: Why has Gentoo fallen out of favor? Doesn't anyone use Gentoo anymore besides me? Gentoo's portage and emerge utility rivals that of Debian's app-get. 2006.0 LiveCD even has a graphical installer available, though any true Linux user should be ashamed of using such a thing. ;-) I find building and compiling a fresh Gentoo installation very satisfying. I would have thought there would be more people like me on the KLUG list... I use Gentoo on my web server and my file server. I built them both from Stage 1. My web server runs a Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading and my file server is an AMD 64. Both have 1 gig memory. I enjoy working with Gentoo since I know I can compile it to run the best on whatever system I'm running. I don't have to accept the lowest common denominator package and I don't get a bunch of junk I don't want preinstalled. I have another AMD 64. Next, I think I'll build a database server. I have a copy of Oracle 10g I'd like to play with at home. Maybe throw on Apache, PHP, Perl, Java, and MySQL too just for fun. This box will definately stay behind my firewall.
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 14:48, Jeremy Fowler wrote:
Why has Gentoo fallen out of favor?
Mainly because Gentoo's quality has been deteriorating over the past few years.
Gentoo's portage and emerge utility rivals that of Debian's app-get.
Indeed, but unless the package tree is maintained well, it has issues. For example, it is impossible for me to do an update due to masking conflicts. The only reason I still use Gentoo is that I am waiting until I have Utopios at a usable state to replace it on my systems.
--- Luke-Jr wrote:
On Wednesday 05 April 2006 14:48, Jeremy Fowler wrote:
Why has Gentoo fallen out of favor?
Mainly because Gentoo's quality has been deteriorating over the past few years. My take on this. I've used Gentoo. It was ok, but I'm still searching for the right distro. I'm starting to lean towards Linspire for a desktop machine. Servers, I've pretty much gone raw debian.
On the Ubuntu front. Every version I've installed has had hardware issues, preventing a clean install. I've totally failed to build a Kubuntu CD that would install clean (whereas sometimes Ubuntu would install clean). It's been a long time since I've had a distro that would flake out on me on some hardware. I've run Mepis for many years and never had much issues with it. It's still a nice distro. As far as apt-get issues, I have a few apt-pin problems, but if someoone has apt-pin problems it is <<< always >>> the fault of the person who is maintaining the system and has no relation to the flavor of debian or debian itself. Basically, you should never apt-pin, and if you do you should be prepared to pay the price. The price being eventual apt-pin problems. Aside, to the grammar nazi: the year 6 AD <> the year six the year of our Lord, BUT the year 6 AD == the year six Anno Domini. Which of course "could" be "translated" into: the year 6 AD <> the year six the year of our Lord <OT warning - do not read if you are offended by OT> But, it wasn't. I've also, seen and been taught in grade school the A.D. stood for after death. Which of course is incorrect. On top of which if you want to get really picky about grammar, you shouldn't use AD anymore, but CE or (Current Era), which would produce a grammatically correct sentence. On top of which, since the term AD was used and not a spelled out the grammar was almost correct. The correct form should be "the year AD 6" or "the year BC 6". Even though those of us who think in Latin-English see it as redundant speech. Why? I don't know, he's on third base. Well, actually I do know. </OT> brian jd
I'm still a Gentoo user, but I rather run it on my headless server in my living room. If I had to put together a laptop now I'd use Ubuntu with Gentoo as a backup. Gentoo requires alot of planning, Ubuntu not so much. Jeremy Fowler wrote:
Why has Gentoo fallen out of favor? Doesn't anyone use Gentoo anymore besides me? Gentoo's portage and emerge utility rivals that of Debian's app-get. 2006.0 LiveCD even has a graphical installer available, though any true Linux user should be ashamed of using such a thing. ;-) I find building and compiling a fresh Gentoo installation very satisfying. I would have thought there would be more people like me on the KLUG list...
_______________________________________________ Kclug mailing list Kclug@kclug.org http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug
participants (6)
-
Chris Boyd -
Jack -
James Sissel -
Jeremy Fowler -
Kendric Beachey -
Luke-Jr