Ubuntu and Kubuntu vs. Mepis
Who in our group is actually using these distros? I'm interested in the ease of updating and stability after doing so compared to Mepis, HDD installed Knoppix and regular Debian or any other Debian-based distro. I've tried tons of LiveCDs, used Mepis quite a bit and never had success with plain old Debian installing as a desktop. I like Mepis out of the box, though like any distro you find little bits that don't work or you don't like. Mepis is switching to the Ubuntu repositories with the next release, in order to get more stable updates. The point of this is, I still consider myself a Mepis user, but I'm concerned about the quality of the Ubuntu repos if I stick with it. Also, if I were to switch to Kubuntu, will I run into apt-pin problems when I try to add software not included on the distro disks? That has been a problem on Mepis with the Debian unstable repos. I tried the 64-bit Kubuntu last week and it looks great on my newish desktop PC, but I also wonder how it will do on a PIII-500 with lots of ram. An older Mepis was OK on it after I turned off the flashing and bouncing mouse-busy cursors. Haven't had the guts to try a newer Mepis or anything else on that PC. I need a Linux with the games working for my kids when they are over.
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 13:18 -0500, Kelsay, Brian - Kansas City, MO wrote:
Who in our group is actually using these distros? I'm interested in the ease of updating and stability after doing so compared to Mepis, HDD installed Knoppix and regular Debian or any other Debian-based distro.
I run Ubuntu Dapper Drake on my laptop and love it for it's "no-brainer-ness". Everything just works. But I run Debian Unstable on my desktop to track development and do development myself. It's more work to keep it up and running but I have access to the huge amount of software in Debian at the latest version. I use the Gnome 2.14 desktop on both.
I've tried tons of LiveCDs, used Mepis quite a bit and never had success with plain old Debian installing as a desktop. I like Mepis out of the box, though like any distro you find little bits that don't work or you don't like. Mepis is switching to the Ubuntu repositories with the next release, in order to get more stable updates.
Probably more "current" releases instead of "stable". Debian Stable is solid as a rock. But their next release isn't until December of this year.
The point of this is, I still consider myself a Mepis user, but I'm concerned about the quality of the Ubuntu repos if I stick with it. Also, if I were to switch to Kubuntu, will I run into apt-pin problems when I try to add software not included on the distro disks? That has been a problem on Mepis with the Debian unstable repos. I tried the 64-bit Kubuntu last week and it looks great on my newish desktop PC, but I also wonder how it will do on a PIII-500 with lots of ram. An older Mepis was OK on it after I turned off the flashing and bouncing mouse-busy cursors. Haven't had the guts to try a newer Mepis or anything else on that PC. I need a Linux with the games working for my kids when they are over.
Ubuntu's repos are formidable because they are largely based on Debian's. In additional, there's a laudable backport effort that works to bring newer software to older Ubuntu releases. The quality is great. Adding software from outside the distro is fine as long as it comes from the right Debian release. As far as resources are concerned, there won't be any difference between distros. You should use Gnome 2.14 if you're that worried about it. Gnome just went through a gang-busters optimization release cycle where they re-engineered a lot of their internal data structures for speed and efficiency. -- Jason D. Clinton <me@jasonclinton.com>
Jason D. Clinton wrote:
As far as resources are concerned, there won't be any difference between distros. You should use Gnome 2.14 if you're that worried about it. Gnome just went through a gang-busters optimization release cycle where they re-engineered a lot of their internal data structures for speed and efficiency.
Is this what's coming with Dapper Drake, Gnome 2.14? Will that be called release 6.4, 6.5, or 6.6 since it's not final until June 1, but was due in April? Peace, Jim Look! I bottom posted! ;-)
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 20:04 -0500, Jim Herrmann wrote:
Is this what's coming with Dapper Drake, Gnome 2.14? Will that be called release 6.4, 6.5, or 6.6 since it's not final until June 1, but was due in April?
Yes, it's already in Dapper Drake. It will be 6.6. The additional time is to allow a number of open source projects which have exciting stuff almost ready to finish it for inclusion. -- Jason D. Clinton <me@jasonclinton.com>
Jason D. Clinton wrote:
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 20:04 -0500, Jim Herrmann wrote:
Is this what's coming with Dapper Drake, Gnome 2.14? Will that be called release 6.4, 6.5, or 6.6 since it's not final until June 1, but was due in April?
Yes, it's already in Dapper Drake. It will be 6.6. The additional time is to allow a number of open source projects which have exciting stuff almost ready to finish it for inclusion.
They should release it on the Sixth of June, and call it 6.6.6, just to freak out the religious people. :-) Peace, Jim
On Mon, 2006-04-03 at 20:45 -0500, Jim Herrmann wrote:
They should release it on the Sixth of June, and call it 6.6.6, just to freak out the religious people. :-)
As if they need any encouragement. :) There's already a number of fringe groups extolling their fears of the dreaded date. Personally, I'm more interested in 01:02:03 AM 04/05/06. I'm sure that the FSM has something planned for us. -- Jason D. Clinton <me@jasonclinton.com>
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 08:45:08PM -0500, Jim Herrmann wrote:
They should release it on the Sixth of June, and call it 6.6.6, just to freak out the religious people. :-)
You talking to me? That's 06-jun-2006 in my calendar, and the day before my birthday, so I'm down with that. Besides which, my filesystem has more than a few mode 666 files anyway . . .
Peace, Jim
-- Hal Duston hald@kc.rr.com
Hal Duston wrote:
On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 08:45:08PM -0500, Jim Herrmann wrote:
They should release it on the Sixth of June, and call it 6.6.6, just to freak out the religious people. :-)
You talking to me? That's 06-jun-2006 in my calendar, and the day before my birthday, so I'm down with that. Besides which, my filesystem has more than a few mode 666 files anyway . . .
No, you're at least rational. I'm talking about the real nuts. ;-) Not that they would give a hoot about a Linux release anyway. Peace, Jim
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