On 5/7/07, kclug-request@kclug.org <kclug-request@kclug.org> wrote:

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Today's Topics:

   1. Job Opportunity (Steven Danz)
   2. Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt (Justin Dugger)
   3. Re: Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt (Jonathan Hutchins)
   4. Re: Ubuntu ShipIt (David Nicol)
   5. Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3 (Earle Beason)
   6. Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3 (Jonathan Hutchins)
   7. Re: Ubuntu ShipIt (Monty J. Harder)
   8. Free to good home... (Steven Danz)

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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 13:29:34 -0500
From: Steven Danz <steven-danz@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Job Opportunity
To: kclug < kclug@kclug.org>
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All,

For anyone looking for a Linux sys admin (and more) position, this just
came up where I work:

http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/jobsearch.asp?q=Aviation+Weather+Center&jbf574=CM54%2CCMXX&lid=17875&jbf522=&salmin=&salmax=&paygrademin=13&paygrademax=13&FedEmp=Y&tm=&sort=rv&vw=d&ss=0&brd=3876&FedPub=Y&caller=%2Fagency_search.asp&SUBMIT1.x=57&SUBMIT1.y=9&SUBMIT1=Search+for+Jobs

If you have any questions, just ask!

Steven

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:14:40 -0500
From: "Justin Dugger" < jldugger@gmail.com>
Subject: Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt
To: KCLUG <kclug@kclug.org>
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A few lunches ago, someone jokingly suggested putting an Ubuntu CD in every
dorm room as a way to get rid of
all my spare CD-Rs I'm never gonna use.  Since the people present were
receptive to the idea, I decided to follow up on it.  The Ubuntu people
responded positively, but balked at the number we'd need.

So at this point we have a few choices:
* Make do with the 200 they've offered
* Make our own from CD-Rs and labels
* Ask for more from the right people within Ubuntu
* Find sponsorship from local and Ubuntu related interests (ie Canonical,
maybe Dell)

So what's needed from the LUG now is opinions on the options, and of course
alternative suggestions.

Justin Dugger

On 5/7/07, Marilize Coetzee < info@shipit.ubuntu.com > wrote:
>
> Hi Justin
>
> Thank you for contacting us.
>
> This is a wonderful idea, but unfortunately we cannot send you such a
> large number of CD's.
> The best I can do is 200.
> If you are interested, place an order on Shipit and use my name as
> reason for ordering.
> https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
>
> Kind regards
> Marilize
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>         I'm a member of Kansas State University's LUG, and we were
>         thinking
>         about promoting Linux usage on campus via Ubuntu.  Personally, I
>         use
>         Ubuntu on all my computers and at the research lab, but our LUG
>         is more
>         diverse, involving gentoo devs and users of various other
>         platforms.
>         Still, the entire LUG seems to agree that Ubuntu is a great
>         match for
>         people new to linux, and we've handed out Dapper and Breezy CDs
>         at
>         previous events.
>
>         We're thinking of doing something far more massive, potentially
>         using over a 1000 CDs. We'd like to see about getting an Ubuntu
>         CD
>         placed in the care package the dorms place in students rooms at
>         the
>         beginning of the school year.  Do you think our LUG needs to
>         form a
>         LoCo subgroup first to be considered for something on this
>         scale?  One
>         thing I want to avoid is converting our LUG into a tool to
>         promote a
>         single platform, even if it's very good for some of our purposes
>         ^_^
>
>         I of course realize that this bulk request of CDs may be
>         rejected as
>         inefficient and AOL-like.  The original idea came up as a way to
>         dispense with the bulk CDs we've all purchased but realized
>         we'll
>         never use, and it occurred to me that shipIt might be a viable
>         avenue
>         for this, with excellent labels and inserts to boot.
>
>         Justin Dugger
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 14:39:08 -0500
From: Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins@tarcanfel.org>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Ubuntu ShipIt
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On Monday 07 May 2007 02:14:40 pm Justin Dugger wrote:

> * Make do with the 200 they've offered

Why don't you start with 200 and see what kind of reception you get?

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 14:45:34 -0500
From: "David Nicol" <davidnicol@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu ShipIt
To: "Justin Dugger" <jldugger@gmail.com >
Cc: KCLUG <kclug@kclug.org>
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I don't understand how ordering a big stick of CDs from ubuntu central helps
you dispose of your spare blanks.

Does k-state have a bulk burning facility?  UMKC does, or at least they used to.
You could use that.  In each care package could go some kind of little coupon --
"Take this coupon to room N at the wildcat center for your copy of the Ubuntu
linux distribution disk" -- with a picture of Tux.

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 17:58:26 -0500
From: Earle Beason <Earle-Beason@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3
To: kclug@kclug.org
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WELL,
    I usually one to promote free speech, however this is a travesty, I
would be one of those "LUSERS" who happen to be running a windows XP
(X3), Windows XP pro, Fedora 5 and Fedora 6 on different machines, Yes
that 6 different computers. The wife and I are moving to an all Linux
powered network

     Your nasty attitude about window users is exactly the crap the put
me off from Linux for over a decade. From what I have read on this
forum, If I handed my 4 year old the keyboard she would still be more
productive then you at promoting Linux, mainly because she don't know
how to talk trash.
    Both my wife are the so called "Least Common Denominator Users,"
Quite frankly I don't understand Linux, I don't know how to code , I
don't know all the in and outs, however I am learning it as I go. What I
do know is that I can install Fedora, Ubuntna, and Suse, and then get
open office to cover the applications, and livina to cover movies and
MP3s. With Linux seemingly o have everything built in I can google
warrior any problem and get it fixed. So far my job, friends and family
are impressed with the Linux system I put on their computers. I even got
a dude I gave some computers to through craigslist, to format his drives
and purge the illegal copy of Microsoft XP, and load fedora 6; He is
happy with Linux
At my job a twenty minute demonstration on a Linux laptop, got positive
responses. My boss and several of my coworkers are starting to play with
Linux, so far everyone has had  good results in whatever application
their running

I climb off my hate-box now and ask for you to STFU and try doing
something productive like educating all the poor who have illegal copies
of Microsoft, on using a Linux system. You might find the "Least Common
Denominator Users," are actually pretty intelligent people who are
unaccustomed to the power of a Linux Machine and just need to be clued in

Earle

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>Today's Topics:
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>   1. Motherboard/Processor combo on ebay (Joe Brouhard)
>   2. What SuSE users think (Jonathan Hutchins)
>   3. Re: What SuSE users think (Oren Beck)
>   4. Re: What SuSE users think (Jonathan Hutchins)
>   5. Re: What SuSE users think (Jared Jennings)
>
>
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>
>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 6 May 2007 19:15:57 -0500
>From: "Joe Brouhard" <jbrouhard@gmail.com>
>Subject: Motherboard/Processor combo on ebay
>To: kclug@kclug.org, ubuntu-kc@googlegroups.com
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>Just a FYI.. i'm selling a motherboard/processor combo on ebay.  The
>reserve price is at $70.
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=330117037913&rd=1&rd=1
>
>
>

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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 18:21:27 -0500
From: Jonathan Hutchins <hutchins@tarcanfel.org>
Subject: Re: Kclug Digest, Vol 34, Issue 3
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On Monday 07 May 2007 05:58:26 pm Earle Beason wrote:

> Quite frankly I don't understand Linux, I don't know how to code , I
> don't know all the in and outs, however I am learning it as I go.

I guess I've been very unclear about this.  No, you're not a "luser".  You're
willing to learn.  (In fact, I suspect that learning may be one of the
reasons you're into Linux.)

The people I mean to express scorn for are the people who come into support
channels on IRC and say things like "Don't tell me to use the console, I
don't want anything to do with text mode".

I meant to point out a certain stage of learning and development common to the
average SuSE user in that they still rely on Windows.  I, myself, was at that
stage for about six years while I ran Linux professionally on text-only
servers, and I'm still a bit of a newb when it comes to some of the GUI
stuff.

People who are willing to learn a little, and who want their computer to do
what _they_ want to do, not what what some corporate shill thinks they should
want to do are the people who should run Linux.

There will always be people who shouldn't run Linux though.  Some of them try
because it's a free way to pirate and run Windows games.  They have no
interest in how the system works or what it's doing, they just want to click
and go.

I don't consider Windows users undesirables.  I don't hate people because they
use Windows.  There are some users who I really think shouldn't user Linux
because they really aren't willing to learn anything new, and those people
should use Windows.

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 21:10:38 -0500
From: "Monty J. Harder" <mjharder@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Ubuntu ShipIt
To: "David Nicol" < davidnicol@gmail.com>
Cc: KCLUG <kclug@kclug.org>
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On 5/7/07, David Nicol <davidnicol@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> In each care package could go some kind of little coupon --
> "Take this coupon to room N at the wildcat center for your copy of the
> Ubuntu
> linux distribution disk" -- with a picture of Tux.

I like this.  We got a bunch of *ubuntu disks for ITEC, but people had to
come to the booth and indicate interest in Linux.  It's not like we stuck
them under windshield wipers in the Wal-Mart parking lot.

The coupon should also say that you're not just getting the disk, you're
getting a network of people who will help you learn how to install,
configure, and use it.  That's the extra that you don't get when you buy
shrink-wrapped software.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 22:12:57 -0500
From: Steven Danz <steven-danz@kc.rr.com>
Subject: Free to good home...
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I have a 'standard' 79" tall server rack that I need to clear out of the
garage for anyone that wants to come get it. Solid panels on three sides
with two power strips and a fan in the top.  I'm located down around
Stanley, just south of OP.

Steven

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