From: Eric Gilliland (jegilliland@hotmail.com)
Date: 12/06/01


From: "Eric Gilliland" <jegilliland@hotmail.com>
Subject: contrition
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 07:48:30 -0600
Message-ID: <F24AbAWFswl3tTUqp2T00024eef@hotmail.com>


>Are we talking server apps here? Or are we talking desktop apps. I >have
>never had to do any research on getting a desktop app running from RPM,
>unless the thing is alpha-release or early-beta.

OK, I'd forgotten about the Mandrake software manager. I partially retract
that statement, because installing anything from the distro discs using
software manager is great. I have run into problems installing things not
included in the package. There is probably a way to install non distro
things using the software manager, but I couldn't find it. To be honest,
however, I haven't spent much time working with it, because I am very busy
now.

>Nobody is trying to hold you back Eric. The only one who knows what is
>important for you to learn is you. We cannot point you to a path which
>will minimize your effort and maximize your speed of learning what you need
>to know.
>
>It is the same for the millions who will follow you. You will not be >able
>to spoon feed them and they will complain how difficult the path >is no
>matter what you do.

I don't at all feel that anyone is trying to hold me back. I did not mean
to give that impression. I agree with the comments above. I am not
defending MS here either. If I was a huge MS lover I would not be
experimenting with linux. I am planning to move to linux for everything
except games in a couple of months when my thesis is done. I was kind of
playing the devil's advocate here, in part because I wanted to see how
people would react, as I am new to this forum and know no one.

>I think that for the regular users (those who don't know
>that AOL or MSN is not required to gain access to the internet) to >ever be
>able to use Linux, it must come preinstalled on a computer >that you can
>buy at Best Buy or Wal-Mart.

I noticed that Mandrake 8.1 standard edition is available at WalMart.

>There is a new distro called "Redmond Linux" (redmondlinux.org) that >does
>just what Jeremy is saying. It limits the choices, dumbs down >the OS so
>that a typical Windoze user can handle it. It will be >interesting to
>watch this to see how it turns out.

Is this really a good name to sell linux under? Considering the hatred and
contempt that MS is held in, i think not.

>I think that it's only been within the last year that linux distros >have
>gotten to the point that they are usable by "power users" meaning >those
>that know the difference between AOL and the Internet, or that >know what
>the word "Operating System" means.

Well, that would be me. I have really had fewer problems then I thought I
would installing and trying to learn how to use linux. I still don't know
enough commands yet, but I have my copy of Running Linux.

BTW, I recieved my Win XP upgrade disc from Dell yesterday. I have decided
NOT to install it though. Just too much bad crap about it.
MUST......RESIST......MS........MIND CONTROL.......

Eric Gilliland

J. Eric Gilliland
jegilliland@hotmail.com
Meet it is I set it down, that one may smile, and smile, and be a villain.
Hamlet Act 1 Scene 5

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