From: Walter Dunz (Zscoundrel@netscape.net)
Date: 04/20/00


Message-ID: <20000421031750.25500.qmail@ww183.netaddress.usa.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 22:22:37 -0500
From: Walter Dunz <Zscoundrel@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [RE: kclug - Community webserver?]

No, last time I checked, which was about a month ago, Birch was still getting
the run-around sw bell, but things were slowly starting to change.
(A recent court ruling helped!)

Doesn't matter for me though, I live near the Plaza and apparently am more
than 22k feet from the switch. Looks like a 56k future for me. . . although
my ISP would liek to sell me ISDN for about 3 times the price of DSL!

michael d hoskins <michael.d.hoskins@mail.sprint.com> wrote:
> Does Birch do DSL? I thought they only did T-1's (voice and/or data,)
> which cost more than DSL but less than SWBell's T-1's.
> http://www.birch.net/
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dlparker [mailto:dlparker@dlpinc.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 11:51 AM
> To: kclug
> Cc: dlparker
> Subject: Re: kclug - Community webserver?
>
>
> Not strange at all. The biggest problem I think would be TPC
> (The Phone Company). If you're in a Southwestern Bell area then
> you'd probably be better off contacting Birch, BUT - the FCC has
> 'directed' the ILECs (Incumbent Local Exchange Carriers) to make
> DSL available to competitive '...providers of high speed Internet
> access and other data services.' This can even be an analog voice
> line where the low freq portion carries the voice traffic and is
> administered by the ILEC, and the high frequency portion of the
> same wire pair can carry the high speed xDSL traffic and be
> leased from the ILEC by a local ISP and re-sold to you. I think
> that if you could demonstrate that you were a business (license,
> tax-id, bus. cards, etc.), that there's not much they could say
> to anyone wanting to get DSL, put a server in their closet, and
> host websites. In fact, this would be the perfect setup for
> the KCLUG, where the organization could share the costs and
> members could have accounts (not dialup, necessarily) and/or
> websites/pages and host collaborative projects.
>
> This is an intriguing idea. I have DSL now (272K SDSL) in an
> area where the ILEC does not offer the service, but is expected
> to soon. I'd be very interested in something like this, and could
> even host it, but I'm really busy with other projects right now
> and it would take me a while to get it all set up. I'm definitely
> interested in talking about this, though.
>
> Tony Hammitt wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I just had a strange thought. There are some people here in town who
> > can actually get business-class SDSL connections to their homes.
> There
> > are other people like me who would like to but aren't in an approved
> > area of town. Would it be possible to get together and drop off a box
> > at someone's residence that we could all use? I'm already paying
> $30/mo
> > for various web hosting services. That's a good chunk of what the
> > service would cost. I've also got some usable hardware for a server.
> >
> > The only problem I could see is getting the other server parts and
> > reimbursing the homeowner for power. Does anyone else think that this
> > is a good idea?
> >
> > I'd love to have a box I could actually configuremyself. Right now my
> > web host doesn't have a decent database, etc. so I'm having to work
> > three times as hard hacking together a search engine. If I just had a
> > box I could install software on, I'd skip all of that.
> >
> > Love to hear what you all think,
> >
> > Tony
> --
> Dave Parker/DLP, Inc. dlparker@dlpinc.com www.dlpinc.com
>
>
>
>
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