From: D. Hageman (dhageman@dracken.com)
Date: 11/08/01


Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 14:27:16 -0600
From: "D. Hageman" <dhageman@dracken.com>
Subject: Re: Wine, Whine, installs, and the like
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0111081413330.11910-100000@typhon.dracken.com>

On Thu, 8 Nov 2001, Steev Johnson wrote:

> I saw the posts on WINE and I thought about the fact that the only way I
> can bear installing software on Linux is to drink some wine first. Now

Well, if that is what you have to do then that is what you have to do. I
recommend that if you think that you are becomming an alcoholic you switch
to Mac OS. :-)

> Well, so does Linux.

No.

Depends on the distrobution you run and what the philosphy is. If you get
a BSD style distro you will find that you have neat little directories for
most major pieces of software with the binaries soft linked back into your
path. RPM/DEB based distros do spread files around, but if you know how
to use your package tool you can find the files very easily.

rpm -ql <package>

> Let's take for example the MYSQL package as implemented under Trustix,
> or any other distribution for that matter. None of the RPMS really WORK
> to get it installed, there is still tons of Mickey mouse to make it work
> - if it ever does.

Well, sounds like you need to write the maintainers of the RPM and let
them know that their RPMs are broken.

> trying to figure out why safe_mysqld hangs. What every happened to the
> glorious days of DOS when everything was in the same %$&! directory!?
> What was wrong with that?

Nothing, see above.

>
> Yes, I understand the shared data and the centralized config can/should
> be somewhere else, but this is just a mess! Whether it gets installed
> under /usr/bin or /usr/shared or usr/local or whatever seems to depend
> on how someone was feeling that day. Much like windows. At least with
> windows, I KNOW there are only a couple places other than the app
> directory that they are going to dump DLLs and the like.

And why ... because you have run Windows for so long. It is called
experience.

> cobol. If I can't figure this stuff out easily, how is the average
> sysop ever going to be able to deal with this?

No matter how I answer this question it will be bad. I will pass ;-)

Have fun!

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