<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>I can chip in for another year, but if we're not using it, we can let it go.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Sun, May 21, 2023, at 17:41, Billy Croan wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="auto"><div><div>It is I. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And we have com, net and org, for the record.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>I was setting up net or com the other day with cloudflare's free tier as a technology sandbox. I've always seen org as the official and net and com as a playground.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I convinced my employer, Unreal Servers datacenter to sort of commit to renewing .org despite being tight on cash. I'd rather like to see another date center tech than more domains....<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Net Standard still hosts the VM and that's why those two companies appear on the page.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I'm not entirely sure I want to ask them to prop up net and com. For what?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I was probably going to just bite the bullet and pay for that myself in a week despite myself not having a whole lot of room in the budget.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maybe some of the fine people in this thread, who have ideas on the future of KCLUG might also have some change to spare for domain registration. We can do it at the next meeting....<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>It's about $15 per domain per year. I put ten years on each in the beginning.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I get enough junk mail as it is, so if the group wants public contact information, I'll accept applications from volunteers who want their personal contact information put in there.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Reply on list with it. You might as well if you want it in public whois.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I made sure years ago that several of us have logins to namecheap. I check that we're all still alive every couple years. And each of us has the ability to look up the name on the reg -- and probably the last four of my credit card too which is fine. And we know each other. So I don't think there's realistically any risk of the domain getting lost.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There's a shared account that runs the domain and it is administratively delegated to at least three long-term kclug members.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If anyone's got a more egalitarian suggestion on how to set that up I'm all ears.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But I want to see volunteers putting actual work into refreshing the site before I worry about who's name is on the reg.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And so I challenge all of you, raise your hand if you want to donate some time to set up a modern CMS. Any CMS at all, import the gist of the current pages, make some new content. Commit to doing something every quarter for the next two years on the site?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You can even take credit for it. Put your name at the bottom of every page. Use the site as part of your web design portfolio.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Now sit back and watch as no one does.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">....<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ask ourselves honestly, are we doing anything with that domain? Has the website materially changed in the last 10 years. 20 actually? There are actual (family) tombstones that have updated more frequently.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There's the mailing list. And thank you Jonathan and Chris for getting that working again. But look at the thread history. Has it been used for Linux Discussion in Kansas City lately? Why not? How many messages in the past month? How about the last 2 years?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I got it working a decade ago and I've immediately got used for unrelated left field nuttery.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Moving to Google groups? Moving <i>what</i> exactly? You can't import message history there I'll tell you that.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Sorry if this comes off a little nihilistic but, at what point are we no better than domain squatters?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">What are we DOing with it?<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">How many decades is it going to take before the domains become the happy home of the new Kansas City Libations Underground, or Kansas City Librarians for Unified Government, or the Potassium Chloride Users Group?<br></div></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div>There's no sense arguing what color paint is on the shed if the sheds not doing anything other than holding up the paint.<br></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>Now. Happy thoughts....<br></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Sun, May 21, 2023, 14:44 Jonathan Hutchins <<a href="mailto:hutchins@tarcanfel.org">hutchins@tarcanfel.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);border-left-style:solid;border-left-width:1px;padding-left:1ex;"><div>On 2023-05-21 14:25, Hal Duston wrote:<br></div><div> > I didn't realize <a href="http://kclug.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kclug.net</a> had even been registered. I only knew<br></div><div> > <a href="http://kclug.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kclug.org</a> which doesn't expire until Mar 3, 2024. I don't know<br></div><div> > who the contact is for the domain(s).<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I know my own policy when I register a domain is to register .com, .net, <br></div><div> and .org so that no-one can grab the same domain and spoof it.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> I believe Billy Croan holds the current registrations. (Another good <br></div><div> reason to make the contact info public.)<br></div><div> <br></div><div> -- <br></div><div> Jonathan<br></div><div> _______________________________________________<br></div><div> KCLUG mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:KCLUG@kclug.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">KCLUG@kclug.org</a><br></div><div> <a href="http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug</a><br></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div>KCLUG mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:KCLUG@kclug.org">KCLUG@kclug.org</a><br></div><div><a href="http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug">http://kclug.org/mailman/listinfo/kclug</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></body></html>