<p>It is *mostly* possible, but a ton of work. You have to build apple's gcc, which is no fun on another OS. Also as stated you must copy those frameworks.</p>
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1. Re: iOS application on Linux (Mike Dupont)<br>
2. RE: iOS application on Linux<br>
(Kelsay, Brian - OCIO-ITS, Kansas City, MO)<br>
3. Re: iOS application on Linux (John McPherson)<br>
4. Re: iOS application on Linux (Chris Bier)<br>
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Message: 1<br>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:05:21 +0100<br>
From: Mike Dupont <<a href="mailto:jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com">jamesmikedupont@googlemail.com</a>><br>
To: "Christofer C. Bell" <<a href="mailto:christofer.c.bell@gmail.com">christofer.c.bell@gmail.com</a>><br>
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here is what I found so far:<br>
<a href="http://code.google.com/p/cocotron/" target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/cocotron/</a><br>
The Cocotron is a cross-platform implementation of Objective-C API's<br>
similar to Foundation and AppKit<br>
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Christofer C. Bell<br>
<<a href="mailto:christofer.c.bell@gmail.com">christofer.c.bell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack <<a href="mailto:quiet_celt@yahoo.com">quiet_celt@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux?<br>
><br>
> Not really. ?If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the<br>
> UI that iOS provides. ?Linux doesn't provide the same user interface.<br>
> That said, Objective-C is available for both.<br>
><br>
> Debian (and derivatives): gobjc<br>
> Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc<br>
><br>
>> Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux?<br>
><br>
> Never heard of it.<br>
><br>
>> Best iPhone/iPad emulator?<br>
><br>
> The one that comes with the iOS SDK.<br>
> <a href="http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action" target="_blank">http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action</a><br>
><br>
>> Cheap Apple development box?<br>
><br>
> A Mac mini.<br>
> <a href="http://www.apple.com/macmini/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/macmini/</a><br>
><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Jack<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Chris<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 13:46:13 +0000<br>
From: "Kelsay, Brian - OCIO-ITS, Kansas City, MO"<br>
<<a href="mailto:brian.kelsay@kcc.usda.gov">brian.kelsay@kcc.usda.gov</a>><br>
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Subject: RE: iOS application on Linux<br>
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According to my local Mac Guru, he agrees that the Mac Mini is the cheapest way to get into iOS development (~$600). The iOS SDK is free. You would also need to pay for a dev acct to be able to submit completed programs to the App Store ($100). This is needed even if you build an app and release it for free.<br>
<br>
Brian Kelsay<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: On Behalf Of Christofer C. Bell<br>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM<br>
Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux<br>
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
> Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux?<br>
<br>
Not really. If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the<br>
UI that iOS provides. Linux doesn't provide the same user interface.<br>
That said, Objective-C is available for both.<br>
<br>
Debian (and derivatives): gobjc<br>
Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc<br>
<br>
> Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux?<br>
<br>
Never heard of it.<br>
<br>
> Best iPhone/iPad emulator?<br>
<br>
The one that comes with the iOS SDK.<br>
<a href="http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action" target="_blank">http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action</a><br>
<br>
> Cheap Apple development box?<br>
<br>
A Mac mini.<br>
<a href="http://www.apple.com/macmini/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/macmini/</a><br>
<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Jack<br>
<br>
--<br>
Chris<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:26:55 -0600<br>
From: John McPherson <<a href="mailto:xeniphon@gmail.com">xeniphon@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Kclug <<a href="mailto:kclug@kclug.org">kclug@kclug.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux<br>
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If you have a PC and patience, you could try to put MacOS on a PC. Of course if you are one of those folks who actually reads the EULA then this isn't likely an option; <a href="http://www.osx86project.org" target="_blank">www.osx86project.org</a><br>
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On Nov 16, 2011, at 7:46 AM, Kelsay, Brian - OCIO-ITS, Kansas City, MO wrote:<br>
<br>
> According to my local Mac Guru, he agrees that the Mac Mini is the cheapest way to get into iOS development (~$600). The iOS SDK is free. You would also need to pay for a dev acct to be able to submit completed programs to the App Store ($100). This is needed even if you build an app and release it for free.<br>
><br>
> Brian Kelsay<br>
><br>
><br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: On Behalf Of Christofer C. Bell<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux?<br>
><br>
> Not really. If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the<br>
> UI that iOS provides. Linux doesn't provide the same user interface.<br>
> That said, Objective-C is available for both.<br>
><br>
> Debian (and derivatives): gobjc<br>
> Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc<br>
><br>
>> Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux?<br>
><br>
> Never heard of it.<br>
><br>
>> Best iPhone/iPad emulator?<br>
><br>
> The one that comes with the iOS SDK.<br>
> <a href="http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action" target="_blank">http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action</a><br>
><br>
>> Cheap Apple development box?<br>
><br>
> A Mac mini.<br>
> <a href="http://www.apple.com/macmini/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/macmini/</a><br>
><br>
>> Thanks,<br>
>> Jack<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Chris<br>
><br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:22:31 -0600<br>
From: Chris Bier <<a href="mailto:chris.bier@cymor.com">chris.bier@cymor.com</a>><br>
To: KCLUG <<a href="mailto:kclug@kclug.org">kclug@kclug.org</a>><br>
Cc: Kclug <<a href="mailto:kclug@kclug.org">kclug@kclug.org</a>><br>
Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux<br>
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You might want to take a look at this mobile platform framework list:<br>
<a href="http://www.markus-falk.com/mobile-frameworks-comparison-chart/" target="_blank">http://www.markus-falk.com/mobile-frameworks-comparison-chart/</a><br>
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On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 09:02:45PM -0800, Jack wrote:<br>
> Thanks Chris,<br>
><br>
> What I really meant was what is the best development environment on Linux. I'm aware the best environment is on Macs with the official SDK.<br>
> Deploying, would really just have been a bonus.<br>
> I have no desire to write iPhone Apps, but my grandson might. He's not in a financial situation to go and buy a Mac or even get a<br>
><br>
> developer license from Apple. I myself am disinclined to obtain said tools for him. A truly cheap Mac, I might be willing to buy.<br>
> Cheap as in older, used, discarded, PC hardware, cheap.<br>
><br>
> I've known about the Objective-C compiler in GNU for years. I've seen the iphone-dev site,<br>
> which seems abandoned, and thus was not sure even what level of development is possible in Linux.<br>
><br>
> Was not sure about the VM capabilities either. I have no intentions of clicking through any Apple EULA/NDA. Especially considering the DOJs latest stand on things.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I would allow my underage grandson to do such, except now the DOJ is calling him (and every US minor) a criminal who should be prosecuted,<br>
><br>
> simply due to the fact: they are minors, the CFAA, and Google's TOS.<br>
><br>
><br>
> For those, new to the story, the DOJ says it's a crime to violate the TOS of a website. Google's TOS forbid minors, because they cannot legally enter into a contract.<br>
> Hence any minor can't legally use Google without becoming a felon per CFAA. I'm pretty sure just about every teen in America has used Google.<br>
><br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS" target="_blank">http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS</a><br>
><br>
> "2.3 You may not use the Services and may not accept the<br>
> Terms if (a) you are not of legal age to form a binding contract with<br>
> Google, or (b) you are a person barred from receiving the Services under the laws of the United States or other countries including the country<br>
> in which you are resident or from which you use the Services."<br>
><br>
> Brilliant.<br>
><br>
> Thanks again,<br>
> Jack<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ________________________________<br>
> From: Christofer C. Bell <<a href="mailto:christofer.c.bell@gmail.com">christofer.c.bell@gmail.com</a>><br>
> To: Jack <<a href="mailto:quiet_celt@yahoo.com">quiet_celt@yahoo.com</a>><br>
> Cc: Kclug <<a href="mailto:kclug@kclug.org">kclug@kclug.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: iOS application on Linux<br>
><br>
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack <<a href="mailto:quiet_celt@yahoo.com">quiet_celt@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux?<br>
><br>
> Not really.? If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the<br>
> UI that iOS provides.? Linux doesn't provide the same user interface.<br>
> That said, Objective-C is available for both.<br>
><br>
> Debian (and derivatives): gobjc<br>
> Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc<br>
><br>
> > Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux?<br>
><br>
> Never heard of it.<br>
><br>
> > Best iPhone/iPad emulator?<br>
><br>
> The one that comes with the iOS SDK.<br>
> <a href="http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action" target="_blank">http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action</a><br>
><br>
> > Cheap Apple development box?<br>
><br>
> A Mac mini.<br>
> <a href="http://www.apple.com/macmini/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/macmini/</a><br>
><br>
> > Thanks,<br>
> > Jack<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Chris<br>
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