<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Thanks Chris,</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>What I really meant was what is the best development environment on Linux. I'm aware the best environment is on Macs with the official SDK.</span></div><div><span>Deploying, would really just have been a bonus.</span></div><div><span>I have no desire to write iPhone Apps, but my grandson might. He's not in a financial situation to go and buy a Mac or even get a <br></span></div><div><span>developer license from Apple. I myself am disinclined to obtain said tools for him. A truly cheap Mac, I might be willing to buy.</span></div><div><span>Cheap as in older, used, discarded, PC hardware, cheap.</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>I've known about the Objective-C compiler in GNU for years. I've seen the iphone-dev
site,</span></div><div><span>which seems abandoned, and thus was not sure even what level of development is possible in Linux. <br></span></div><div><span>Was not sure about the VM capabilities either. I have no intentions of clicking through any Apple EULA/NDA. Especially considering the DOJs latest stand on things.<br></span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>I would allow my underage grandson to do such, except now the DOJ is calling him (and every US minor) a criminal who should be prosecuted, <br></span></div><div><span>simply due to the fact: they are minors, the CFAA, and Google's TOS. <br></span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>For those, new to the story, the DOJ says it's a crime to violate the TOS of a website. Google's TOS forbid minors, because they cannot legally enter into a contract.</span></div><div><span>Hence any minor can't legally use Google without becoming a felon per CFAA. I'm pretty sure just about every
teen in America has used Google.<br></span></div><div><br></div><div>http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS<br><span></span></div><div><span>"</span><font><font size="-1">2.3 You may not use the Services and may not accept the
Terms if (a) you are not of legal age to form a binding contract with
Google, or (b) you are a person barred from receiving the Services under
the laws of the United States or other countries including the country
in which you are resident or from which you use the Services."</font></font></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Brilliant.</span></div><div><br><span></span></div><div><span>Thanks again,</span></div><div><span>Jack<br></span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font size="2" face="Arial"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Christofer C. Bell <christofer.c.bell@gmail.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Jack <quiet_celt@yahoo.com><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Kclug <kclug@kclug.org><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, November 15, 2011 5:54 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: iOS application on Linux<br></font><br>
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Jack <<a ymailto="mailto:quiet_celt@yahoo.com" href="mailto:quiet_celt@yahoo.com">quiet_celt@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>> Anyone know if one can write AND deploy iOS applications from Linux?<br><br>Not really. If you're programming for iOS, you're writing against the<br>UI that iOS provides. Linux doesn't provide the same user interface.<br>That said, Objective-C is available for both.<br><br>Debian (and derivatives): gobjc<br>Fedora (and derivatives): libobjc<br><br>> Anyone ever used PhoneGap in Linux?<br><br>Never heard of it.<br><br>> Best iPhone/iPad emulator?<br><br>The one that comes with the iOS SDK.<br>http://developer.apple.com/devcenter/ios/index.action<br><br>> Cheap Apple development box?<br><br>A Mac mini.<br>http://www.apple.com/macmini/<br><br>> Thanks,<br>> Jack<br><br>-- <br>Chris<br><br><br></div></div></div></body></html>