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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And another one&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.franklinmiller.com/electronics-shredding.htm">http://www.franklinmiller.com/electronics-shredding.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>In 1994 I worked at an IBM facility that hosted the data center
for Equifax.&nbsp; Once a month they had a truck that would pull into the
loading dock and they would bring out carts of old tape cartridges.&nbsp; They
would fire up what was essentially a giant wood chipper in the back of the truck
and throw the tape cartridges in it one at a time.&nbsp; It would grind them up
and spit them into the of the truck.&nbsp; When they closed the back door, it
simply looked like any other 18-wheeler on the road.&nbsp; Very cool to watch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kelsay,
Brian - Kansas City, MO<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> KCLUG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: Shredder?<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'>There are industrial shredders that WILL shred anything.&nbsp;
There is a company, that frequently shows up on Discovery channel, that makes
all sizes of industrial shredders.&nbsp;&nbsp; They go as big as one that
shreds cars down to shredding trash which includes 2x4s and cans.</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'><a href="http://www.ssiworld.com/watch/watch-en.htm">http://www.ssiworld.com/watch/watch-en.htm</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:blue'><a href="http://www.ssiworld.com/watch/hard_drives.htm">http://www.ssiworld.com/watch/hard_drives.htm</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Brian Kelsay</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> kclug-bounces@kclug.org [mailto:kclug-bounces@kclug.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Sean Crago<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> KCLUG<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Shredder?</span><o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal>&gt;I can't figure out why the government just doesn't
remove the hard drives<br>
&gt;and send them to a shredder. &nbsp;Even a private individual can achieve
roughly<br>
&gt;the same level of security with a drill and a 1/2&quot; drill bit. With the
price<br>
&gt;of drives being what they are now it can't impact very much the resale
value<br>
&gt;of the computer to sell it without a drive installed.<br>
<br>
Shredders don't like metal, but there are things that'll make quick work of a
drive:<br>
<a href="http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/062706-guard-dog.html">http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/062706-guard-dog.html</a><br>
<br>
The Air Force seemed to think a 1-2 punch was in order, according to Cryptome:
&quot;2.5. Destruction. It is a good practice to sanitize media before
submitting it for destruction. Media may generally be destroyed by one of the
following methods (see Table 2.1). (<b>NOTE</b>: Although approved methods,
options d and e use acid, which is dangerous and excessive, to remove recording
surfaces. Options a, b, and c are recommended over d and e.) &quot;<br>
<a href="http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/afssi5020.htm">http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/afssi5020.htm</a><br>
<br>
-Sean<o:p></o:p></p>

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