<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Luke -Jr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:luke@dashjr.org">luke@dashjr.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">On Tuesday 09 September 2008 14:53:10 you wrote:<br>
> I think you need to define what you mean by HTML.<br>
> <a href="http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/html/tagpages/b/blink.htm" target="_blank">http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/html/tagpages/b/blink.htm</a><br>
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</div>It doesn't work that way. HTML is well-defined: <a href="http://www.w3.org/html/" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/html/</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Ah, so you DID mean the HTML standard and not HTML in general. I'm not sure what you mean by "It doesn't work that way" -- I didn't say it worked any particular way. I was simply giving a reference to the tag that lists common browsers and who supports it and what quirks it may have. Even if something isn't in the HTML standard, a lot of browsers will still render it. Likewise, just because it's in the html standard doesn't mean that all browsers will render it correctly.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">
> It has in fact been supported by Netscape, it was supported in IE4 (and I<br>
> believe phased out after that).<br>
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</div>Irrelevant.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I was simply supplying this information for history.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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> It is part of the css1 standard (text-decoration: blink).<br>
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</div>"text-decoration" is a CSS attribute, not a HTML element.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I never said it was an HTML Element. I said the same method was defined by another web-standard.</div><div>However, under the CSS2.1 standard, all standards compliant browsers DO need to support the blink tag and apply other css attributes to it. They do not have to blink the text contained inside the tag.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">
On Tuesday 09 September 2008 15:03:56 you wrote:<br>
> You still need a renderer to display the video - whether you embed a java<br>
> object, a flash object, a Windows Media Player object, etc...you're still<br>
> going to leave out a segment of the crowd. No matter what method you chose<br>
> you're still using a proprietary plugin - you just have to choose the one<br>
> you think the most people will have. I think that's flash.<br>
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</div>Poor implementation is not my concern. An embedded video file is standard HTML<br>
and works just fine as-is in Konqueror with MPlayer Plugin.<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br></div>That's a very narrow viewpoint and one that good web developers can't take. If your site doesn't work in a user's browser, they're not going to say "Hey Safari, fix your browser" they're going to say "Hey web designer, fix your site." Also, I repeat that in the current HTML standard (4.1), there is no such thing as a video tag. You are referring to a tag that's defined in the HTML5.0 draft. They haven't even finished discussing supported codecs for it. So yes, Konquerer may play it how you want it to (using a proprietary pluging), but once the standard is actually finished, Konquerer may not support the standard at all, or it may behave completely different than you expect. Check <a href="http://www.w3.org/html/" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/html/</a> for more information. Under the HTML 4.1 standard the only way to embed video is by using the object tag. Part of the object tag is the type attribute. This type determines what plugin is used to play the media.<br>
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