<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Leo Mauler <<a href="mailto:webgiant@yahoo.com">webgiant@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Jeffrey Watts <<a href="mailto:jeffrey.w.watts@gmail.com">jeffrey.w.watts@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>> And I'm pointing out that it's wasteful, and poorly<br>
> designed for today's modern 24/7 Internet.<br>
<br>
</div>Only from the perspective of ISPs. From the end user perspective it frequently works a lot better than the alternatives (such as bittorrent).</blockquote><div><br></div><div>And the ISP is the one providing the service, so they get to decide. Cope.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">
> I don't care if it's more useful for you, it's not<br>
> good for the ISPs.<br>
<br>
</div>Depending on the definition of "not good". If you lose clients because you don't have a news server, then having one is good.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>They would lose whom? You and your couple of buddies? I don't think they'll care.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="Ih2E3d">
> You seem to forget that this stuff costs money, and<br>
> a service has to be good for both the servers as well<br>
> as the clients. Netnews is not,<br>
<br>
</div>Not good for the ISPs, great for the clients.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>ISPs are the ones providing the service. They get to decide. Cope.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">> and that's why it's slowly going away. This is a<br>
> good thing.<br>
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</div>Only if the ISPs don't hemorrhage users away to ISPs with news servers</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Who? You and your couple of buddies? I don't think they'll care. Again, cope.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="Ih2E3d">
> > There's a difference between supporting something<br>
> and just admiring its technological advantages to the end<br>
> user. I support NetNews' text-only groups, but I<br>
> merely admire the system of binary distribution through<br>
> NetNews. I'd still want text-only NetNews to stick<br>
> around, and if the price is binary NetNews vanishing, then<br>
> so be it, despite its technological advantages to end users<br>
> in the sharing of binary files.<br>
><br>
> You've obviously never run a production INN server.<br>
> There is NOTHING admirable about how it works.<br>
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</div>There's plenty admirable from the end user side of things, regardless of what you've seen on the server end.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No one cares but you. Just shut the fuck up already.</div><div> </div></div>-- <br>Chris<br><br><br>