<FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">First I want to thank _*all*_ who have [in earnest] tried to help me.</SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></FONT><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Now for answers to all who posted in Kclug Digest, Vol 47, Issue 9:<BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">--->Luke wrote:</SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR><FONT face=arial>On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Julie wrote:</FONT></SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><PRE><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">> $64,000 QUESTION</SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Do we really get $64,000 for answering?!</SPAN></FONT></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY:
arial"><FONT face=arial>***Luke, here's a tiny little "clue" for you:</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>Everyone likes a little @zz once in a while, but no one</FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial> *really* likes a wize @zz. <BR><BR>Capisce?</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>--->Then Bradley wrote:</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>Yes, in monopoly money.</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=arial>***Thank you, Bradley, for the quick pick up on that! LOL! :)) :)) :))</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>--->Jeffery added his $.02 worth [and then some] with a good </FONT></SPAN><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">natured "lecture" on <BR>the fact that I need to learn the </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">command line and why.</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"> <BR><BR>***...Nothing I didn't already realize </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">on my own, though. ;) </SPAN></FONT></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>Gave me some much needed CLI information </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>which I am _quite_ thankful for. <BR></FONT></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR><FONT
face=arial>He then asked if anyone </FONT></SPAN><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">knew 'of a good book or web tutorial for' me. <BR><BR>GOOD IDEA, </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Jeffery! :D </SPAN></FONT></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>***I had a friend of mine buy me Linux for Dummies </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>last year. But it came </FONT></SPAN><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">with an<BR> _installation *ONLY*_ CD of </SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Fedora 8 and is geared specifically to it. I still have it </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">around because it does have SOME CLI in it. But I wonder if </SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>it applies to PCLOS <BR>...or even *ubuntu???</FONT></SPAN></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"> <BR><BR>Unfortunately, a
</SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">free web tutorial is the only thing I can afford at this </SPAN></FONT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>moment <BR>in time. :(</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>--->Ron chimed in with:</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Unlike almost every other operating system, the command </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">line in Unix is extremely useful and powerful.</SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Command line in DOS/Windows is usually a much faster way to </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">get things done. I
still jump into it for a variety of OS </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">things. MS got the message (pros prefer prompts) and </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">improved their 'shell' via Windows PowerShell.</SPAN></FONT></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">***Guys, I don't even know anything about WINDOZE CLI. :( </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">... ... ..."msconfig" and "regedit" is about it. :|</SPAN></FONT></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>--->Jeffery then answered Ron with:</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT
face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Yes, but the default shell SUCKS DONKEY NUTS. .....etc., </SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">etc., etc. ..... </SPAN></FONT></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><PRE><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>*** I must look up the term 'cmd.exe' and learn about THAT! ;)</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>--->Christofer also answered Ron with:</FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>The irony here is that Microsoft's next server release is slated to</FONT></SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">include a GUI-less installation option. I can't imagine managing a</SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">Windows server without a GUI (I don't know, however, it it provides</SPAN><BR
style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial">one when using Remote Desktop Client).</SPAN></FONT></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial> <BR></FONT></SPAN><TT><TT><BR></TT></TT><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>***I agree with Christofer about GUIs. But, then again, of </FONT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial> COURSE I would <BR>because that's all I know right now. ] : )</FONT></SPAN></PRE><PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"></SPAN><BR style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><FONT face=arial>--->Brian then informed us of our ISPs censorship practices in the fact that Time<BR>Warner, etc. are all going to cease allowing access to Usenet newsgroups.</FONT></SPAN></PRE><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial"><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>***Thank you, Brian, for the heads up on that handy little tidbit of info! That's good <BR>to know... ;) But has it cleared snopes? LOL! ]
: )</FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>--->Then Bradley answered Jeffery's "lecture" to me with some GREAT info about <BR>a website where I can start TRYING to learn CLI.</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial> <BR><BR>***THANK YOU, once again, Bradley! I can't wait to wade into that site and see <BR>what I can do with it! :D</FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>>>>>>>>>></FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>Now, before I could manage to get this sent off I get Kclug Digest, Vol 47, Issue 10.<BR></FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><FONT face=arial>It contains this from David:</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial>The MS-DOS 2.0 (which could multitask a little: it could background printing, itt might have been able to do pipe chains) reference guide had an introductory section discussing command line file redirection operator semantics, in which MSDOS was described as a UNIX. I wish I still had that book around, I would like to scan the page
and post it for reference by link at moments such as now </FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial>***MEEEE TWO! I shudder to think about the books I donated to charity when Larry died that I NEED now!<BR>I simply didn't know what they were and that I DID in fact need to keep them. <BLUSHING beet red!></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial>>>>>>>>></FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>Now, about my computer:</FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>Would ya'll like for me to just bring it to the next meeting so you can actually <BR>EYEBALL the thing to SEE what it's *doing*?</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial> <BR><BR>Or should I just go ahead and *TRY* to do an OS re-install (by myself) so I can <BR>try to actually *USE* the thing to start learning from the web site Bradley provided. <BR><BR>Right now that OS is all but completely FUBAR (to me anyway). Even though it'll <BR>boot up, I can't use it for anything at
all.</FONT></PRE><PRE><BR><BR><FONT face=arial>!!!!!THANK YOU all, once again, for all the help and suggestions you've given me.<BR></FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial>Sincerely,<BR>Julie</FONT></PRE><PRE><FONT face=arial>P.S.: If this post looks weird, it's either Yahell acting up or something is going <BR><BR></FONT></SPAN><TT><TT><BR><BR></TT></TT><TT><TT><BR><BR><BR><BR></TT></TT><B><BR><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"></SPAN></B><TT><TT><FONT face=arial><FONT face=arial> on with this Windoze machine of mine. I made the colossal mistake of trying Firefox on it. grrr!!!</FONT><BR></PRE></FONT></TT></TT><BR><p>